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Venom: The Last Dance, or is it?
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What if the critics got it wrong about "Venom, the Last Dance"? We're throwing caution to the wind and sharing why this film is a must-watch, even if it left some critics scratching their heads. Join us for a lighthearted discussion about the dance scene with Mrs. Chen, the retcons involving Baron Mordo, and the ever-evolving Spider-Man universe. With nods to the chaotic genius of Marvel's symbiotes and a look at the lovable-yet-flawed Sony Spider-Verse, we're here to prove that even the most unexpected movies can bring joy and excitement.
Moving on to the wild world of Spider-Man, we offer our thoughts on films like "Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets," while speculating about the future of fan-favorite characters like Anti-Venom and Mr. Negative. Josh Brolin in a hilarious cameo? Yes, please! Our conversation bounces from potential plotlines to the underappreciated corners of the Marvel universe, touching on symbiotes, Spider-Verse projects, and the intriguing concept of Null. The joys and pitfalls of franchise planning—or the lack thereof—spark our musings on characters like Carnage, weaving a tapestry of what could be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
As we close, there's no shortage of humor as we navigate the latest Marvel TV shows, with insights into series like "WandaVision" and "The Penguin." Whether it's the twerking scene in "She-Hulk" or the gritty storytelling of "Moon Knight," we celebrate the highs and critique the lows of these character-driven narratives. Plus, we offer a spirited reflection on the reception of "Rings of Power" and the gruesome yet captivating allure of the "Terrifier" series. With laughter, candid critiques, and a touch of chaos, this episode is a whirlwind tour through the latest in movies and TV, perfect for Marvel fans and pop culture aficionados alike!
Welcome to the Nightfallsville podcast. It's me, your host, Venom. This is the review of my newest film, Venom, the Last Dance. You want a candy bar? Yes, I would like one, Eddie. Okay, enough of that Good intro. I don't do that half bad. That's why I said I'm gonna do it. Fuck it, Eddie. We are Venom.
Speaker 2:Apparently, my co-worker just got out of the movie too Venom.
Speaker 4:My co-worker just got out of the movie too, venom. Might as well ask him what he thinks Venom Was fun, was fun, that was one sentence. Was fun.
Speaker 2:That was his one sentence review.
Speaker 4:Could you imagine if that was our podcast review? Good night everybody. That movie was fun. See you later.
Speaker 2:Now on to our top 10 characters. I wish it could be that simple Right.
Speaker 1:No, but again, a fun movie. Go see the damn movie. Don't let critics scare you away from it saying it's atrocious. It's not.
Speaker 4:It's very fun, Like my God this is not just coming from the biggest Spider-Man fan in the world either. I'm being honest, I'll tell you, like Madame Web was kind of poopy.
Speaker 1:Matt Morbius was poopy.
Speaker 4:Besides the dance scene, but uh, you just like that because it was in his underwear. It was relatable to you. Had he been fully naked, you'd be like that's me but no, but all the venom movies are fun too.
Speaker 1:Has its issues, but they all have they all have issues.
Speaker 4:This one had its story more put together than the second one did, I think. Oh, yes, and the first one actually, yeah, considering it was actually calling symbiote symbiotes. Yeah, that was my biggest cringe from the first one symb, what symbiote? Symbiote, what the fuck are you saying? Symbiote Entire movie. They are symbiotes, what I mean. And then they had the actual symbiote say it.
Speaker 2:It's okay, he's dead now.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Burnt up. Oh yeah, it's okay, he's dead now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, burnt up. Oh yeah, spoilers, spoilers. The whole movie will be discussed. I don't know if gripe should be mentioned or good things.
Speaker 4:So we're going to start on vacation. That's where the movie starts.
Speaker 1:I was trying to. I was confused. I was trying to figure out the openings.
Speaker 3:I'm like wait so what about the?
Speaker 1:what about the one that got left in the MCU? Or did you retcon?
Speaker 2:What are you? They retconned a lot in the beginning. I'm confused.
Speaker 4:They retconned the shit out of that. It wasn't left in the MCU, that was just the bar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the bar. Yeah, they changed two major things. They changed where he left the thing, and what brought him back to his universe was changed, because he was brought back through Doctor Strange's spell in the movie versus this one, it was a necrophage portal.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when did that come from? Yeah?
Speaker 4:that was Well. I want to be aware they did have the same fucking color, just not the same special effect.
Speaker 2:Look, no, I don't think there was a portal at all in the doctor strange one.
Speaker 1:It was just a light show and then he was back gone well, another thing too, and this is a universal, not great kind of great, but I'm like I can see that, but it didn't really hurt much for me, but it was noticeable what the casual grab.
Speaker 2:No, the stop talking, just the sudden Dorito.
Speaker 3:Damn, I went into venom. Your cereal took over Chocolate.
Speaker 2:You don't have any chocolate? Damn it.
Speaker 4:It was a chip. Instead, if it was Nuggies, it'd be worse.
Speaker 1:You're not even talking right now. You just yeah, you just wait here.
Speaker 2:There you gotta crunch. So I will be calling this movie not Venom 3, I will be calling it Venom. Barren, mortal and Lizard. Fight a Bunch of Aliens.
Speaker 4:You still see him as barren mortal? Yes, is it kind of sad he died in this one too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he didn't die in the other one. He didn't die in either of the other Doctor Strange movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Baron Mordo is just one of them. Characters MCU forgot about.
Speaker 2:He went off on his own and now he wanted to kill all sorcerers. Hasn't been accomplished yet. And then we see him in the multiverse as Sorcerer's Dream Baron Mordo. He doesn't die in that movie either. He's only one of the Illuminati that doesn't die.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, that's some sad fucking facts. Right there it is.
Speaker 4:It's like what the the only one in the Illuminati that did not die.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, oh God, what the fuck? Oh, my little thing. The Codex thing was a little wonky to me. I'm like, okay, so they're bonded and then they die. That's the key to Okay. That sounds like that was thrown together in two minutes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you really might want to explain that comic facts to them, because it's been in a video game, now a movie.
Speaker 1:The codex.
Speaker 4:Yes, that was kind of thrown together in two minutes that whole spiral thing, has been in the video game movies, but the comics did it so much better. I mean, of course it did it better. It was the origin of the fucking shit.
Speaker 1:But that's another gripe. That was kind of. It literally is like okay, you threw that together in two minutes to explain Null's Key.
Speaker 4:It's minor to me, probably major to him, because Not as much.
Speaker 1:I told you. It's minor, but it's noticeable. I'm like, just because that's what you threw together for Null's Key. So okay, that was a little.
Speaker 2:Okay, the gripey-ness of that, where it's like it feels like that was put together and then it feels like that dance scene with Mrs Chen was literally used just to further the plot Because he needed to transform to summon the necrophage. That was literally a plot device. Yep, that was there's no reason for any of it. It's like, how are we going to get this to the next act there?
Speaker 4:I mean, if he just Wait, holy shit, that's Sony's thing. Dance scenes.
Speaker 1:Tobey Maguire was like yes, no, seriously.
Speaker 4:Think about every single Sony movie we've gotten so far. That's a part of the Venomverse. There was a dance scene in Madame Web. Yes, they were on top of the table.
Speaker 2:They were dancing on the table, son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, sidney Spears up there shaking them, Don't make me think about that, don't?
Speaker 4:make me think about that. Don't do that, that's too easy. Morbius, you got your dance scene. God damn it. How many have we had so far? Just Morbius, the other two Venoms, oh, the other two Cat we had him rapping Venom 2?. We had him in a fucking Club.
Speaker 2:He was in a rave.
Speaker 4:I don't remember one though.
Speaker 1:I don't think we had one. I don't think there was one. There might not have been one.
Speaker 2:in the first one they were at a bar. I don't think they ever got him dancing.
Speaker 4:No, but it's been a thing ever since.
Speaker 1:And I'm gonna tell you, though, there's something that I pay attention to Now.
Speaker 4:I hope we don't get Vulture in a movie, because Michael Keaton actually would dance. He's rumored to come back in.
Speaker 1:Spider-Man 4.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:As Vulture.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:Don't ask me what the fuck they're doing, I'd rather have Kingstone, but we're not going on that fucking journey. It's going to come up. Mcu Spider-Man is going to come up, but at some point.
Speaker 2:It was announced and we have a release date. It was going to get mentioned.
Speaker 1:There's going to be some random topics from Mr Matt Movies in our top ten.
Speaker 4:He's seen one that we haven't seen.
Speaker 1:We can let him talk and we can chime in a little bit. There's going to be some randomness here, but that's fine. I feel like we ain't done one. When's the last time we done one, or has it been a bit?
Speaker 4:It's been over a month.
Speaker 1:Okay, it has been a month Okay.
Speaker 4:I paid twice and we've only gotten one episode in.
Speaker 1:Well, this was one we always planned. Well, love hurts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll do one for that Top ten action movies that's going to get set up on you. You should have known.
Speaker 4:As long as we're not dancing or singing, I can't sing, for shit. I can mimic singing.
Speaker 2:The only person that's been on this podcast that can sing isn't you, Carol.
Speaker 4:He's been forced to sing.
Speaker 2:I have him on recording.
Speaker 1:What. You still have that video. I swear to God I was there. I think I was there. That's why I remember it.
Speaker 2:That was after seeing our Cindy Sweeney movie.
Speaker 4:As long as you don't force that video on the internet, he will never bring up mine.
Speaker 2:I don't have this deal with him. I can do what I want.
Speaker 1:I know what he's talking about, though I know what he's talking about. It's not as bad as it thinks, but it is kind of funny.
Speaker 4:No, for some reason my pitch actually works for that song. Yeah, it's raining men, Fuck off Hallelujah. I got paid in drinks and I'm okay with it. It's the only reason that I did it.
Speaker 2:I got him singing God. I don't remember what it was, Don't?
Speaker 4:ask me no it's the Shrek song, hallelujah, I don't know if that's the name of the song, though that's the name of the song. That's the name of the song. It's Hallelujah, the one where it's actually got the gospel part about it or the one where it's just Hallelujah, Hallelujah.
Speaker 2:The straight first one that you hear in the track, the whole gospel one, the one they would play at karaoke. Who the fuck did that?
Speaker 4:Jesse JJ did Hallelujah. Yeah, because his first song was already taken.
Speaker 1:Alright, one gripe I wanted to bring up Again. I'm trying to pool some reviews together. Some of my more trusted people I watch for reviews A gripe that I didn't necessarily agree with, that people bitched about. A lot of people didn't like the whole car ride with Martin in them and I'm like they ruined my song man.
Speaker 4:But I know why they used it, Because it is such a fucking hippie song. Found it Ground Control, the Major Tom. It's not even the name of the song, but I like the song Ever since of Valeria. I think the movie was called.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Valerian Fuck, I can't remember Valerian and a Thousand Cities. Yes, I actually like the movie. Critics bombed it and then people didn't understand it.
Speaker 2:I wasn't a big fan of the people in the movie, the two actors Uh-huh, that was Green Goblin, by the way.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2:I never liked that Green Goblin. Anyway, technically they were both in DC movies, she was Enchantress oh fuck Goblin, come on.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck Goblin.
Speaker 2:Come on the Han. The second one, yes, dane.
Speaker 1:DeHaan Dane.
Speaker 4:DeHaan, but I actually like Martin. See how well-rounded we are. We went right back to Spider-Man. Martin had good funny moments, so I was like the webs we weave.
Speaker 1:I don't get everyone's gripe with fucking God. You people are fucking so nifty. Why'd I do that?
Speaker 2:Because you're on the brain Did anyone have an issue with Martin.
Speaker 1:I did not Everyone. Why'd he? It was funny, Jesus Christ people With Martin. People really thought it was boring and pointless, Especially that last fucking part. Oh, come on when he actually saves Tom.
Speaker 3:Aliens.
Speaker 4:Shoots the fucker in the face. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:It runs off Iliad's son. He ran away twice, came back twice. I'm back. Well, I'm trying to think oh, some people weren't as satisfied with the conclusion. I'm like I thought it was fine, you knew something was you knew it was going to die. Someone was going to quote die.
Speaker 4:It kind of sucks that this is the last one, because it kind of feels like we almost got set up for Anti-Venom in a 4. Without Venom attached to him, it kind of feels like Brock's going to get sick.
Speaker 1:Brock would need to get cancer and come into contact with Mr. Negative, though.
Speaker 4:They could just Mr Negative is rumored. For what movie?
Speaker 1:What 4? Yeah, not necessarily. There's no rumor.
Speaker 2:There is no rumor for villains, nobody knows if it's going to be a multiversal. There is no rumor. The only thing we know is If.
Speaker 4:Sony got its fucking hands in there. It's going to be multiversal. Well, Matt made a good, I wouldn't be surprised if we seen Spot in live action.
Speaker 1:Matt made a good point. The best one was multiversal. He made a good point.
Speaker 4:I cannot argue.
Speaker 2:However, the first one wasn't bad though.
Speaker 1:I enjoyed the first one. Wait, what are we?
Speaker 2:talking about the first what Spider-Man?
Speaker 1:Wait, first Spider-Man.
Speaker 4:Homecoming.
Speaker 1:Oh, homecoming, yeah, Okay, no.
Speaker 4:I like all the movies. I just that one. We stayed grounded, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And it had the best end credits scene of all time.
Speaker 1:Not fucking Cap, no Patience, fuck that. That's bullshit. That was the greatest thing ever. That was bullshit. I waited for some epic shit.
Speaker 2:I loved it. I loved every minute of that.
Speaker 1:Patience. Fuck you Cap, fuck you Chris Evans.
Speaker 4:They trolled you so hard I know they did. I can appreciate a good troll. The sad part is that is actually their best 10 credit scene.
Speaker 2:Out of the All of them.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, the other one was revealing the scrolls.
Speaker 4:No, to me that is their best 10 credit scene, because it's basically hey, fans, we know you're staying, we know why you're staying, but guess what You're staying to see extra scenes and characters Us introduced characters we're never going to fucking use.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't say it's the best. Because you can't hate on the classic, fine, I'll do it myself.
Speaker 2:That's a classic, I was going to where they were slow, revealed Thanos.
Speaker 4:Oh his face, Him sitting in his no where he just turned his head.
Speaker 2:He just turned his head and looked at you.
Speaker 3:Yep, because he was unfinished Yep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that wasn't even Josh Brolin, yet no.
Speaker 4:They had to recast him what twice before we actually got no they showed him twice without.
Speaker 2:They showed him full CGI twice before. They announced Roland as Roland Ah, because he did get him with a cougar.
Speaker 4:Hey, did anybody watch Brothers on Prime? I?
Speaker 2:want to. I really should. It looked funny as fuck.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, I'm a fan of all three of them actually.
Speaker 2:Do you want to watch Josh Roland have sex with a bear?
Speaker 4:I didn't know that was a thing.
Speaker 2:No, no, Bear rapes him. That was in the trailer. Oh Bear rapes him.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I thought it was the other way around for a second. Nope, I'm like what the fuck? Alright, hollywood.
Speaker 1:They stuffed Again I'm not sure how many picked up on a lot of them. But not Third Act gets its own 15-20 minutes, but they stuffed a lot of little nods in there too. That I like too. People wouldn't know Strickland, but he's modern, he's from modern comics and he does pretty much the same thing he hunts the symbiotes. But that was cool. That was cool. I like that.
Speaker 4:And I don't how modern, Like last 10 years or so. Yeah, last 10.
Speaker 3:No more, I'm out of as well, yeah, last 10.
Speaker 1:He was in Absolute Carnage. A lot he was in Absolute Carnage. So, yeah, very modern, but uh, I like. And again, the one that might not have been a knob, I don't care. When, uh, when Venom told Eddie he'd make a good dad, I was like Dylan.
Speaker 4:Brock, I was actually looking at you in that scene and you gave me no reaction. I was like Dylan Brock.
Speaker 1:Dylan Brock has a very good relationship with Peter, so it's funny.
Speaker 2:Especially in this new line, you can tell that they didn't have a plan for the third one, though post-second one. How's that? Because, speaking of our least favorite, one of our least favorite parts of number two, having Carnage there in the last battle would have been a lot more entertaining, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the biggest issue.
Speaker 1:Lasher did some shit, man. I actually liked Lasher, yeah Lasher.
Speaker 2:With the trio of them you get Lasher Carnage and Venom fighting these things as we're trying to protect Venom. Yep, yep.
Speaker 1:That's my biggest gripe. With two you don't kill carnage.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's bad. That's kind of the sad thing.
Speaker 1:Did anyone have a gripe? I didn't mind Woody Harrelson. Though A lot of people had a gripe with it, I didn't mind it.
Speaker 2:A lot of people did not like it. It wasn't bad, but I definitely would have chosen somebody else. Oh, okay.
Speaker 4:Somebody, Somebody skinnier, more lankier, maybe younger Crazier what Jim Carrey.
Speaker 2:Honestly, if you want it full crazy, sure, but he's too busy being Mr Robot, dr Robot, and I'm happy about it. Yeah, I know, I'm not mad at it either. He got the belly.
Speaker 4:I shouldn't be too happy about belly fat. No.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, it would have been cool, considering it looks so fake in the movie too. It would have been cool with Carnage in that Because, like I said, that's my biggest gripe. With the second one, it's like why do you kill Carnal? It was a little anticlimactic, like you. Don't just you at least give a hint that he might still be alive? Carnage, another gripe, another gripe. I had Not really a gripe, but I was so disappointed, I'm like the fact that Toxin just peaced out. Bro, you were one of the Bro.
Speaker 4:What the fuck? What was the decision on that? I don't understand.
Speaker 1:People were debating that the green one that he was, that Mulligan was, was toxic, like that is not toxin. But then they make sure you know it's not toxin, because his original one left him. They said so toxin is out there somewhere. But toxin at one point also bonds with Eddie Brock. So that was my thing, maybe, maybe.
Speaker 4:Toxin made his way to New York.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he could make. I'm just saying that's a loophole they can use to use toxin again.
Speaker 2:Speaking of which, go on your other rant. What rant he just brought up? New York.
Speaker 1:Oh Bro, what Sony.
Speaker 4:Well, fuck you, I am your ultimate fan.
Speaker 1:I want your universe to succeed because I love Spider-Man's characters, and I want your universe to succeed. What Spider?
Speaker 4:Oh, hey the fuck, what's up, buddy, what you think of this movie? Yeah, but we got a spider listening in to our podcast about spiders. But uh, spider people, alien Spider.
Speaker 2:Go ahead, Dean.
Speaker 1:My biggest thing with Sony, right, I am their avid defender because I think their stuff could work. But they are such. They give you such great stuff like the Spider-Verse movies, and I think the Venom movies have been very good. I've enjoyed them. Adam Webb and Morbius are. I don't think they're as unwatchable as people think. I can have fun with them. They're not good movies, but I can have fun with them. Your whole I can have fun with them. They're not good movies, but I can have fun with them. But your whole core of your universe is centered around Spider-Man Sony. Where the fuck is he?
Speaker 4:Where the fuck, is he Making rom-coms? That is my, my God, what you don't think they're going to use Andrew Garfield. That's who they need to fucking use.
Speaker 1:I agreed with Matt at the end. That's not Tom's universe, yes, but you should have had Andrew Garfield at the end of that fucking movie. That would have made people flip.
Speaker 2:The funny part is Flip. The funny part is you make Andrew Garfield rom-com jokes when Tom Holland just made.
Speaker 4:Romeo and.
Speaker 2:Juliet.
Speaker 4:Juliet. Oh, so it didn't matter who I said, they all had a rom-com.
Speaker 2:I hope he hasn't recently.
Speaker 4:No, in his last one he was a drug king, wasn't he?
Speaker 2:I don't know, has he watched the movie yet? Oh what, the three-hour movie that you've been meaning to watch, but I don't know if he ever did. Oh, babylon, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was good, I liked it. It was all right. It was all right.
Speaker 2:Was he a drug dealer in the movie?
Speaker 1:He was like a mobster. He was like a mobster.
Speaker 4:I was close, but he no that was good.
Speaker 1:That was a good, but that three-hour movie after about actually enjoying our podcast.
Speaker 4:This is interesting as fuck to me. I don't care. I don't know if this is the ADHD in me or what it's just sitting at the same height.
Speaker 1:He's paying attention. He's paying attention. He's your biggest fan, I know, but the gripe stands. I know it's like you could have had. I'm dead serious, if you just had, it wouldn't have to have been big, just a oh God. What could it have been? It could have been a swing shot or just a snippet conversation with Eddie of Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man. The fucking world would have blew up. The internet would have blew up.
Speaker 4:Even just Andrew there, not even in costume.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Taking pictures of something. They didn't even have to have him interact Just Eddie standing there looking at the Statue of Liberty. And here is, you know, and part of me thinks again.
Speaker 1:Parker, just take. I want to see original, original draft of this fucking movie. It's like the New York out of all the plays, new York, let's go to New York where spider-man it you had. I almost guarantee you he was in in one of them drafts. He was in there at the end, I almost guarantee it, sony. No, what are you doing? Why do you do this every fucking?
Speaker 4:time and don't. Sony owns this movie, though. Why would they not? I don't understand what they're doing.
Speaker 1:That is my issue with their universe.
Speaker 4:What are you doing?
Speaker 1:What are you doing? There's nothing. I see nowhere you're going.
Speaker 4:Live action Spider-Verse.
Speaker 1:Sure, I'd love it, but I don't know, madam Web, venom, they're barely, they're kind of connected. I mean, morbius mentioned the creature in San Francisco, so they're in the same universe, but it's like, don't get me started. Oh yeah, baby Peter, and Madam Web, like bruh, stop doing this. What are you doing, sony?
Speaker 4:I don't understand and, like I said, I'm getting If that actually ended up being the kid that he had to protect, like the rumors say.
Speaker 1:I'd fucking. That might be when I stop defending Sony. You give me Tobey's Spider-Man movies. You give me Andrew's he's moving. You give me good stuff and then you're just gonna I don't get it Like where are you going? Oh yeah, we should talk about Null now, yes, who I'm very excited for. I love Null. Null is phenomenal and I'm worried that Sony's just to leave them on the cutting room floor and never use them again. Like my God.
Speaker 4:You're going to kill him, mm-hmm, that's our biggest fan.
Speaker 2:So those are still in Indonesia.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, that's the Philippines, not Indonesia. Same difference.
Speaker 1:A spider is being murdered. Yes, he's being murdered. Spider-man will not be born tonight.
Speaker 4:You want to be born? He's being murdered. Spider-man will not be born tonight. You want to be born? He's still there. He may be, never mind. Oh, I don't kill spiders, I just crumpled them up.
Speaker 1:I kill house centipedes, I kill lovebirds.
Speaker 4:God damn why that wasn't love.
Speaker 1:Oh God, who's jeans love?
Speaker 4:Oh God. Oh he just wanted to be Spider-Man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I want pictures of him. What's your point? Oh shit, you are right on that one.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you want pictures.
Speaker 4:I am not your fluffer, get away from that. No, he's yours. He wouldn't want to be mine. Anyway, it takes you, emil.
Speaker 2:Oh, blast from the past. Literally.
Speaker 1:La-blast.
Speaker 4:La-blast. What's kind of sad is there is a song in Back to the Future. Love Hurts right.
Speaker 2:No, that's not the name of the song. Love Hurts is actually Love Hurts.
Speaker 1:Oh, the uh. Okay, now the Kind of no, no no, you were talking about no no, um, I just hope I I want to know what sony's doing, because I've heard so many people rant and rave about that, like there's no spider-man's yet. So yet, sony, what are you doing? You're gonna have madame webb, morbius and craven team up to fight about.
Speaker 2:Oh my god don't put that into existence. Oh god, but he just did shit too late.
Speaker 1:It'd probably be so bad. It's good though. No no, no, Loki, they're going to pull Vulture in too. Oh my fucking God.
Speaker 4:Michael Keaton's going to put on a Batsuit instead, though that would be the thing that breaks me, Like you're fighting Null with a.
Speaker 1:What are you?
Speaker 3:I am the night.
Speaker 1:Who's writing your fucking movies? Oh yeah, the same guys that wrote Gods of Egypt. Sorry, writers, don't mean to disrespect you, but what the fuck?
Speaker 4:I think they use AI, jesus, we've seen how that works, holy fuck.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, okay now, yeah, so I hope Null gets used. I like Andy Serkis Did a good voice for him. They said his fucking nickname at the end Iconic line, the King in Black.
Speaker 4:I'm like yes, so correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1:They didn't have his dragon Gore, I wanted to see his dragons. Oh, here comes the Necrosword.
Speaker 4:Had the Necrosword right. Is that not Null's sword? That is Null's sword. He created so this entire movie Null had the. He was old entire he had it the entire time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they they're not good, they'd never. The rumor is now that where are you going with?
Speaker 4:that Connecting universes it's already they already. They already tried with the whole Venom thing and the Spider-Man multiverse.
Speaker 1:Maybe they retcon that because they have a different idea.
Speaker 4:People theorizing that Gull's. Gull has, it doesn't matter though Gorr's sword that he used to kill gods. Still different universes.
Speaker 1:Gull orchestrated.
Speaker 4:Gull originally? Yeah, but it would mean that Gull actually exists in the MCU somewhere, unless they're going to create a new origin story for that, or?
Speaker 1:Gull just comes over to the MCU, which people think is possible, which he would be a great Avengers threat.
Speaker 2:The guy's fucking OP too bad he's not the next Avengers threat we don't exactly know what they're doing for Secret Wars.
Speaker 4:We just know it's still happening yeah we do.
Speaker 1:Dr Doom. Robert Downey Jr, dr Doom.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, robert Downey Jr, dr Doom, fuck but my point is like okay, I still feel like we got gypped on that. We did. I mean, it didn't have to. I was disappointed. I'm like Robert Downey, I get the casting, you know, bring fans back with him. My only issue with that. And there are actual storylines of RDJ's character, tony Stark, being doomed. That could work.
Speaker 1:He's a Miss Iron man boy.
Speaker 4:They're going about it in a really fucked up way.
Speaker 2:The only issue is once he takes off the helmet. If the helmet's on him the entire time, it won't matter. Don't do that to him.
Speaker 4:He's going to be saying that line again.
Speaker 1:Put it back on. I don't want to imagine you're Robert De Niro. I want to imagine you're killing Murphy. Still, god damn it, I ain't gave up the sad part is.
Speaker 4:This is a man that you're saying it to on screen, yelling it in the theater. Put it back on.
Speaker 1:He would Hella, take it off. Take it off. Wait, wait. No, what was wonderful. Oh yeah, ares, put the armor on. I'm sick of seeing this old fuck.
Speaker 4:You have got a trend Every time it's a dude on screen, they're taking their fucking shit off. Put it back on.
Speaker 1:Well, I wanted to see Ares in his armor, not old dude Like who the fuck is this?
Speaker 2:Professor Lupin yeah, harry Potter, I got it. I was waiting for it. He brought it up and I was waiting for it. He brought it up and I was waiting for it.
Speaker 4:I have no clue. Who's going to create a drinking game out of our podcast. Every time you say something. Harry Potter, drink, drink.
Speaker 2:Some of those is only one episode.
Speaker 1:Until we actually commit to creating the Harry Potter episode oh shit they say it every two minutes the funny thing, I mean if a way to maybe cause Null can hop universes too, but uh, isn't that actually one of his things? Yeah, he can, but uh, he's got the fucker just ripped off, doctor Strange yeah, his little circles without moving a single finger yep, I'm stuck here, the fucker
Speaker 2:just ripped off Doctor Strange, yeah, with his little circles Without moving a single finger.
Speaker 4:Yep, I'm stuck here, but go Just with the power of his mind. Hey, when Venom and this is a heavy quotation marks here died, did he go back into his prison, what you know where? He was pulled into darkness. You no longer seen his face.
Speaker 1:No, no, he just he never got the codex, so he just stayed there. He never technically got released. He's just talking shit. At the end there is one plot hole.
Speaker 2:Okay, that I know of off the top of my head, you could probably find a bunch more this just movie door top plot hole.
Speaker 1:This is Venom 3 plot hole, if you really dug, you could probably find more.
Speaker 2:Yes, but this is the one that stuck out to my head. How did Venom know what was in the containers that acidated him? It says right on the side. I don't think Venom understood what it was.
Speaker 4:For him to understand what it was. He didn't. No, yes, he would, because he did actually possess the Doctor at one point. So it's possible, when he shares brains with people, he inherits the knowledge of that body.
Speaker 1:Yep, it's entirely possible.
Speaker 4:It could be a plot hole, but there's a way. That's the one loophole Venom has. There's a way to possibly explain it Remember the whole stupid thing, for was it spider-man? Uh, no way home yeah where they show his cut scene where he's giving him that multiverse of knowledge. Yeah, it's kind of like that. As long as he connects with a host, previous or not, he has that knowledge on hand. I, that's the only loophole I can give you, not saying it's truth or not, but all I can give you.
Speaker 2:I don't think there was enough sympathy from the doctor to free her, free him anyway either.
Speaker 4:But well, for fuck's sake, she's wearing a Christmas pendant.
Speaker 2:I know it was very weak, real. How come she didn't help any of the others and figure out why Venom?
Speaker 4:He was dying Visibly. He's going to die without his host. Okay, that's about all we got. Yeah, you got any. I'm one of those casual movie goers, if you dug hard enough you could find some oh um.
Speaker 1:Michelle Williams' character didn't exist.
Speaker 2:They didn't reference any of the characters from the other movies.
Speaker 4:You mean the one that technically turned into Scream.
Speaker 1:It had me all like it's true, it's true.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, we completely lost all of the San Francisco people, didn't we? Yeah?
Speaker 1:Yeah, there wasn't even a mention of her. She don't exist, but that's not that fucking gigantic. But oh, what was I going to say about Null, If the MCU really wanted to? But again it would have to involve Thor and Gore's dead, so that Null's original appearance was in Thor Null's original appearance was in Thor comics. He was an unseen force that manipulated gore into doing what he did in the comics.
Speaker 2:You're not thinking that far ahead.
Speaker 4:That's just how you could. Wasn't he one of the ones that actually caused Ragnarok 2? Eh?
Speaker 1:I think so what.
Speaker 4:So I could have gotten an actual storyline instead of them stealing from fucking Planet Hulk. Yeah, fuck you, mcu. Sorry, that was loud, I know it. That was loud, I know it now the uh, I'm not causing you to lose your train of thought, am I?
Speaker 1:what is that that watch? New or something?
Speaker 4:Yes, it's almost like a fidget toy Leave me alone Can't help it.
Speaker 1:I'm totally God damn it. I didn't do it.
Speaker 2:You kept talking.
Speaker 1:Well, I was just wondering.
Speaker 2:Want a chip.
Speaker 1:No, that damn thing kept distracting me in the move. I'm like the fuck you. I was going to scream.
Speaker 2:I don't know how I feel with Ryan's watch. It's just fallout.
Speaker 4:I'm like what I was checking to see if you had tits. You said you're going to scream.
Speaker 1:Oh Jesus Christ. Okay, you said you're going to scream oh Jesus Christ, okay, no, the hot no. Now what I wanted to? No, I saved this for last because, oh Jesus, I think I killed Matt with that one. God, I'm sorry people, we lose train of thought so much. But I wanted to talk about we James, plainly, but the hodgepodge that was the third act of just cameos and random bullshit. That's what I'm calling it. It was fine, it was good, I loved it, but it was just. It was Sony taking a mixing pot and throwing. Throw some more in there, throw that in there too. Throw that in there too. Throw that one in, throw that one out. Give a fuck no more. Throw them all in.
Speaker 4:It was the one that possessed the old-ass security guard. Like had the big fist.
Speaker 1:Phage. That was supposed to be Phage. That was, in a way, Phage.
Speaker 4:He was kind of cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's orange.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was Phage. I think he was my other favorite one, aside from Thrasher.
Speaker 1:That was Phage.
Speaker 4:Lasher was the one that did the most stuff. Lasher was the one that attached to Christmas. I was kind of sad that the Xenophage killed her. What the fuck is up with that. By the way, Xenophage is fucking bunks burning through their head.
Speaker 1:That's their comic thing they eat symbiotes.
Speaker 4:That's their food.
Speaker 1:Walking woodchipper yeah, that's, their main food is symbiotes. They like food. Symbiotes are their food. They hunt symbiotes for food, but uh, gnolls use them on occasion, but oh, they weren't gonna throw that in there, it'd be too cool. Gnoll has dragons, he rides, but but uh, lasher, he had Phage there. The blue one was a nod to Mayhem, because there was a symbiote named Mayhem that's blue that actually bonded to Mayday Parker in a different universe. That's a different universe, though not her main one. What? That's? The main universe?
Speaker 3:That's a different universe May Not the one you're thinking of.
Speaker 4:That's kind of sad.
Speaker 1:Not the one you're thinking of. It's a different May, but the white one was a nod to Anti-Venom, even though it wasn't Anti. It was a nod. Yeah, that was not anti-venom, that was a nod to anti-venom. Hey, there's kind of anti-venom. I mean you can make a case. The one, the two combined, the couple of them. Combining the one with the two heads Was a nod to hybrid. I thought they were going to do that.
Speaker 1:Because in the comics. But then it just showed the two heads, because in the comics Phage Lasher, agony and Riot, who was dead in the first, riot was in the first one combined to make a hybrid. They combined together to make hybrids, so that was kind of probably a little nod there too. Yeah, I was a little disappointed. They just killed a lot of them off. But then again they leave Agony alive, which I wish Agony got through a little more and just speed around and be cool for like 10 seconds. But got to see Agony and Toxin is out there somewhere. Scream might be out there somewhere?
Speaker 4:How do you feel about all of these not actually being his children?
Speaker 1:That's a little disappointing because all of them there are his kids Toxin is Carnage's son. His kid toxin is carnage's son. Yeah, toxin is carnage's offspring, but all the other ones they're like phage lasher and it's fine, it's a minor gripe, but those are venom's offspring which would have turned venom into a daddy yeah, daddy. Well they um toxin calls him grandpa in the comics, so it's adorable.
Speaker 4:That would have been cool to see actually.
Speaker 1:Grandpa. But yeah, venom gave birth to all those. Carnage gave birth to Toxin Scorn. Scorn can bind with technology, that's Scorn's thing. And Razay, that's a new one. That's a new one. But that one's black, raz and Razay, that's a new one, that's a new one but that one's black.
Speaker 1:Razay, that's a newer one, that's the third Carnage one. What is it spelled like? Raze, r-a-z-e. Raze, yeah, so yeah, and then that's pretty much all the symbiotes. Like I said, they didn't really name them as they didn't really name them. That's the one thing. If you don't know the symbiotes, like that, you won't know half of those little nods, because You'll just look at the screen and say, oh, he's cool looking.
Speaker 4:He's cool looking.
Speaker 1:The only one that was kind of random was Mulligan's. Second one was very random, the kind of squid one that moved around like a.
Speaker 4:I could not figure that one out, that one was random.
Speaker 1:That one was not like that. It was just the original symbiote. But uh, third act, but yeah, all that was really cool.
Speaker 4:I loved seeing uh wasn't that almost the name of the movie? Third Act Instead of the Last Dance?
Speaker 1:No, I don't know, but uh, I just I said, like Matt bring up earlier, it would have been really cool if Carnage was at the final fight too, so like it was like all the symbiotes.
Speaker 4:Just have all the siblings going at it. And then we could give Carnage a real death.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even though I don't know if getting eaten gobbled up by a chronophage is by a fucking xenophage.
Speaker 2:Other than being eaten via venom Gobble, other than being eaten by a venom Gobble. I think that would have been a better death Gobble.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he pretty much bit his head off.
Speaker 4:Just bit Carnage's head off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even though that technically probably really shouldn't even kill him. But that's a discussion for another day.
Speaker 4:That does not kill a symbiote.
Speaker 1:They don't like sound and you can burn them to death. Be an acid. Venom's noble sacrifice was sad, even though I don't. He sacrificed, he saved Eddie and he's like here, eddie, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna sacrifice myself, save everyone. So Venom gets to be the hero, but the ending you can kind of maybe hint at post-credit that he might still be around On a cockroach.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 4:He's going to infest a Hispanic man.
Speaker 1:Oh, good lord. Yeah, there's. Like I said, there's angles they can take. Oh, we already talked about Null. The first post-credit scene was Null and that's just Null. Fucking shit, and I'm like okay. I'm ready, you're gonna get your.
Speaker 4:Sony's not gonna give us anything. You're gonna get your.
Speaker 1:Well, mcu don't give a shit for post-credits either. They don't care, they don't give a fuck. But they just throw something then walk away. Let me tell you, if the post-credits scene was something to do with Scream. That would have been really it would have made you scream. It would have made him cream. Let me tell you something about Scream Spider-Man 2, the video game Like a cowboy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like a cowboy.
Speaker 1:He'd be flying through the air Spider-Man 2, the video game Like a cowboy. Oh yeah, like a cowboy. He'd be flying through the air. Spider-man 2, the video game. Scream was in and she bonded with Mary Jane. That shit was just a wet dream.
Speaker 4:How many times did you fail that fight because you were too busy looking at her? I was like yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, I seen a fucking picture on the internet of a really thick fucking xenomorph the other day and I said I'd fuck it yeah you should have. I don't give a fuck about aliens people, I'm in there, you don't know what.
Speaker 4:I said to him I know, and so does the whole friend group.
Speaker 2:We know, I know he sent it to us separately and I said, yes, you would.
Speaker 1:I was like I need my brain evaluated, Look at this.
Speaker 4:I'd hit that you would openly die. Well, yeah, I mean the bodily fluids of a female xenomorph. It'd be the worst blowjob you've ever gotten. Oh God, you'd be crying for two reasons One, you lost your dick, and two, because you're now dying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because the saliva as much as I like it sloppy, the saliva is acid.
Speaker 2:You know, I never thought those words would pop in my head in the same sentence. What did we do to you? Castration by xenomorph.
Speaker 4:There's a new form of torture. There's a new form of torture.
Speaker 2:I never thought that was sent in two words would be in the same sentence together.
Speaker 4:I'm going to have my pet xenomorph castrate you oh, there's a D&D idea? No, it's bad enough. I give you. I've given you enough ideas as is. We don't need to run into a xenomorph because the first thing he's gonna do is trying to see if I actually can fuck it, because he can roll for it and can live through it.
Speaker 1:Acid dragon. Acid dragon, oh my, those exist.
Speaker 2:You literally are an acid dragon.
Speaker 4:No, he's, because he is an acid dragon. He can survive in xenomorph. I'd be immune. Yeah, if he cut it yeah, but he wants to fuck it yeah. And if he rolls a nat 20, you'd have to work with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I feel sorry for the xenomorph if it's a guy.
Speaker 4:You didn't think about that, did you?
Speaker 2:No, what is this thing?
Speaker 1:It's not the queen. What is this thing? Uh-oh Shit, I've been fooled, I've been trapped. I would do that too, yeah, you would.
Speaker 4:Okay, great. Now we know what his strength test is going to be.
Speaker 1:Pulling out to run away. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:What do I have as the strength test?
Speaker 4:No, we don't need to know. I've said enough, as is I only remember yours. Great I'm going to fail. I'm going to fail. I know I am.
Speaker 2:It would be funny if you did.
Speaker 1:Oh, another positive. I mean for the most part the, because the Stam symbiotes are all CGI. For the most part CGI was pretty solid too. I didn't fucking, I've seen way worse CGI. I was like, oh look, the symbiotes don't look bad.
Speaker 2:Oh, you want more Spider-Man news. Hey, what? What More Spider-Man news? Oh, no, live-action Spider-Man noir.
Speaker 3:I've seen that. I've seen that it's cool. I'm like yeah.
Speaker 2:Did you say bad news or good news? It's Nick Cage. I said do you want any more Spider-Man? Because I didn't say good or bad news?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's Nick Cage.
Speaker 2:I'm ready. I almost thought you were that picture, yet oh God.
Speaker 4:I totally didn't get Sam's until he said it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm guessing you watched the?
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, clips, I didn't watch the full thing. I really should watch a full episode. I have told him as much as I would.
Speaker 1:Oh, my fucking God, not the bees. Not the bees. Who is? Is that Laura? That was Marisha, marisha.
Speaker 2:Not the bees. Not the bees. I only know three of them. You had Ashley dressed up as Nicolas Cage from the Rock. You had Travis as Nicolas Cage from Con Air and Marisha.
Speaker 4:The angel one threw me off.
Speaker 2:Huh, which one.
Speaker 4:Angel.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was Laura. Yeah, I didn't know what that one threw me off.
Speaker 4:Not the bees, not the bees. So did Matt's.
Speaker 2:Matt was one of the older ones.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That was one of Cage's earliest ones.
Speaker 1:Nobody dressed up as National Treasure. That was actually that was too easy.
Speaker 4:That was a comment everyone made. It was like holy crap, all these Knicks and no.
Speaker 1:Where's Benjamin? Where's Gates?
Speaker 4:What the fuck? All they'd have to do is dress up in a tux or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they wanted something where they actually had to dress up as.
Speaker 1:Not the bees, not the bees.
Speaker 4:Nicolas Cage is iconic, as far as nobody picked the one where he's a witch hunter.
Speaker 1:Which one's he a witch hunter. There is one. I forgot the name of it, but there is one. He's on the cover. He literally goes insane. Is it Season of the Witch? No, I'm going to look that up now because that's going to bug me, sorry.
Speaker 4:No, no. If Nick Cage was going to be in a Spider-Man movie, who would you cast him as Spider-Man Noir? Not that he already is, aside from that, because he does excellent villains.
Speaker 2:I can't think of a villain. No, villains, no.
Speaker 4:I have one and I'm going to hate it if it ever becomes a thing Jackal, jackal, jackal. I hate Jackal, I love.
Speaker 3:Jackal for what he brought's. I love.
Speaker 4:I love Jackal for what he brought to the Spider-Man comics Clones. But I hate Jackal.
Speaker 1:He won, he won the, he won the fuck on one season.
Speaker 4:It's his niece, isn't it?
Speaker 1:No, they're not related. He just was a creepy old teacher man. I liked her.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, they're not related, he just was a creepy old teacher man. I liked her Creepy old teacher man.
Speaker 1:Creepy old teacher man. Yeah, yeah, it's literally called Season of the Witch. I actually like the movie as odd as it is, one of the weirdest random movies I've ever sat down and watched was fucking that one, not this one. Yeah, I see that one. Yeah, but fucking Vin Diesel's the Last Witch Hunter.
Speaker 4:Like what the fuck is this? That was based on his D&D campaign, Vin. What are you doing?
Speaker 2:Just D&D one shot that Matt designed.
Speaker 1:The one Critical Role video I've watched. I don't know if it was on the critical role stuff channel or whatever, but at one critical role type video I watched the whole things. That shit was wildly entertaining. That was on geek and sundry. It wasn't on critical role vin diesel. I'm gonna roll to attack, that's all he said attack, attack. Oh when you took inspiration from Attack, attack, but no.
Speaker 2:You ever want to hear Vin Diesel at his happiest Rolling a natural 20.
Speaker 1:But so go see Venom the Last Dance. Don't let the critics fool you away. It's a fun time. Make sure to wear your best shoes.
Speaker 4:Oh God, what. How many pairs of shoes were lost in this movie. It's appropriate if you wear Crocs Apparently, it's Venom's favorite type of shoe.
Speaker 2:Crooks yeah, I think he insulted him during the movie, yeah he did Very good.
Speaker 4:Very fun movie. Can't believe how many times he lost his shoes and then, when he got a good, decent pair, the army comes in.
Speaker 3:And knocked his boots off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. So now we can segue into kind of the random stuff, because I know Matt wanted to talk. We do that anyway.
Speaker 3:We already did.
Speaker 1:We kind of yeah.
Speaker 4:What's the first thing you want to?
Speaker 2:bring bring up. There'll be some Marvel movies first.
Speaker 1:That's the most logical tangent there'll be some random Marvel shit we could talk about. I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't know if there's much more narrow news other than Wesley Snipes killing the Blade movie best meme from Deadpool 3.
Speaker 1:I mean. Spider-man 4 got a release window.
Speaker 2:Spider-Man 4 got a release window, speaking of which, I have a meme to commemorate that.
Speaker 1:A meme to commemorate.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:So I've got a picture here. If I had a nickel for every time a vampire slayer held a rocket launcher and said something cool, I'd have two nickels, but it's weird that it happened twice. There's a picture of Buffy with the rocket launcher.
Speaker 4:I completely fucking forgot about that.
Speaker 2:And then we have Wesley Snipes pulling up at me.
Speaker 4:That was a locked away memory right there. Uh-huh. So whoever pulled that one out of their ass, thank you, I guess.
Speaker 2:It's still a popular show.
Speaker 4:That's a show. I wouldn't mind them actually properly and I say properly rebooting.
Speaker 2:Because the new Charmed show wasn't bad. No, because it'd be a CW show.
Speaker 4:Yeah, cw, it's hit or miss, unfortunately. So, I have more faith in Fox shows than I do. Cw.
Speaker 2:So recent movies we can save the big asterisk movie for last.
Speaker 1:Sorry, everyone had to fart. It rumbled the couch. I don't do much, but sometimes I whatever. So there's some comedy for the listeners.
Speaker 4:I don't like the fact that we're sharing a couch, oh Jesus.
Speaker 2:It's better than sharing something, hey our fucking guest that we used to have.
Speaker 1:Mr Hobbit is fucking proud of him. He just lifts his leg and goes yeah.
Speaker 2:It's better than sharing something else. I really enjoyed the Wild Robot Pedro Pesca.
Speaker 4:I thought I haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 2:I would. It might have been our top ten anime list for me, yeah.
Speaker 4:Is it as sappy as it looks? Sappy Like very family oriented and sad moments. It's very family oriented, sad moments, yeah, like it'll hit you in the heart.
Speaker 2:It'll hit you the same way that the two movies that I think combined to make this movie does Iron Giant and WALL-E Fuck you. Both of those movies make you feel Fuck you.
Speaker 4:WALL-E. Did you hear that we're actually getting an Iron Giant? And I'm putting this in the heavy quotation marks Because it is technically live action, because it's puppetry. They're using CG to bring it to life. Lovely, no, it looks great. Look it up. Lovely, the characters actually look like they're characters from the animated film, but they're puppets. But they're puppets, but they're puppets, but it looks great, trust me.
Speaker 2:I don't trust you.
Speaker 4:And they're using the exact lines.
Speaker 2:I'm kind of mad you don't trust me. Why would I trust you? I trust you to show up on time and then you sleep all day.
Speaker 3:Oh, on, goddamn time.
Speaker 4:One goddamn time. Fuck, that was sick. We've had two new episodes, oh that was, so we've refreshed twice.
Speaker 2:I could bring up worse examples. That's the tamest of the three.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was low, but appreciated.
Speaker 2:I don't think you want me to put the other two on the podcast, oh fuck.
Speaker 4:Sick, I'm not even going to guess anymore.
Speaker 2:I've learned not to trust either one of you.
Speaker 4:What the fuck?
Speaker 2:I don't even know what he did now, I didn't do shit. He was an accomplice in the other two scenarios.
Speaker 4:I ditched him. Oh shit, he was an accomplice. In the other two scenarios we ditched him. Oh shit, I'm an accomplice. It's his fault.
Speaker 1:I blame both of you. It's our ADHD.
Speaker 2:We just get distracted by things. You both read my message and ignored it for an hour After an hour.
Speaker 4:We got back to you after an hour. What were we fucking doing? You were drunk off your asses.
Speaker 1:We got back to you after an hour. What were we fucking? Doing you were drunk off your asses. We weren't doing shit, we were just eh, we were at the kitchen table Of all the places.
Speaker 4:We ate, we drank and we sat. We were at the kitchen table.
Speaker 1:You want to know the most fucked up thing? And Matt, I Do. You want to know the most fucked up thing? I'm just giving Matt more fucking ammo. I am, but I don't care. His smart-ass comments are just going to make some gold comedy, I don't care. We got there about 30 minutes and we're all just like Matt's going to be pissed at us. We kind of just ditched him. Yeah, what the fuck Shouldn't we go? I don't know if we really feel like it though, yeah let's just stay here.
Speaker 1:Laziness Deadass, look at these like fuckers.
Speaker 4:Laziness.
Speaker 1:It came up. Let's just stay here, jay, okay.
Speaker 2:Dan, you think it's not weird for me to give you guys shit, okay?
Speaker 4:I'm fine. It's good that low blow did not take me out.
Speaker 1:It was low but it was perfectly timed. I'm still breathing. Matt has a talent to bring out the perfect one-hit wonder. He's got, like Doctor Strange, portals of.
Speaker 4:I used that one. He ain't pulling them from other universes. We actually did this. It could have been on our alternate selves.
Speaker 1:God knows, I got a million at all.
Speaker 4:No, no. Sometimes when you drink, you do turn into an alternate self.
Speaker 1:That's very true. It's a wild robot, Pedro Pascal with magical kids. Matt did tell me that so it made me laugh. He's kind of got magical kids again.
Speaker 2:A fox and a duck are magical kids.
Speaker 1:Oh, damn it.
Speaker 4:Oh no, no, the fox acts as a dad.
Speaker 2:Sorry.
Speaker 4:I got dad. Who's the voice of the robot? Again, I forget.
Speaker 2:Uh Lupita.
Speaker 4:I know her from something and I can't remember.
Speaker 2:The voice of the alien chick in the most recent Star Wars trilogy, naz Naz, the one that owned the bar in the Force Awakens. Oh yeah, she's also done Us the horror movie. You didn't watch Us?
Speaker 4:No, I'm assuming you haven't seen day one of I sadly have not watched any of his horror movies. I have not. I know they're good, I just have not watched them of his horror movies Jordan Peele? I have not, no, though I know they're good.
Speaker 2:I just have not watched them. John Drusden sees monster movies, quiet Place.
Speaker 4:Quiet Place.
Speaker 2:Quiet Place. Quiet Place Day One.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's her Yep.
Speaker 2:That's her.
Speaker 4:I, for some reason, had no interest.
Speaker 2:Okay, then, the only movie I know you've seen her in is Black Panther's love interest in.
Speaker 4:Black Panther, there we go, that's it.
Speaker 3:How far back do I have to go?
Speaker 4:That took you down that slope. Alright, we're just going to keep slipping. Go, go, go, go go.
Speaker 1:It was pretty quick though.
Speaker 2:So the Wild Robots Piece by Piece was fun, even if it's just basically a musical, basically Of his life.
Speaker 4:Great, so that one's going to turn into a sing-along one.
Speaker 2:I mean, so did the Lego movie.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know so. It's going to end up being one of those movies that's just going to be on repeat.
Speaker 2:Everything is Awesome is Ryan's ringtone, is it?
Speaker 4:Yes, it still is. I don't like that, because if it actually comes up when it's here, I'm going to end up singing along without trying.
Speaker 2:That's the point. I don't like it. I'll make sure I call him while we're doing D&D. Fuck you.
Speaker 4:Everything is awesome. I want a coffee.
Speaker 2:You want a coffee. Do you guys want to go into your? I hope it's not like $9.58, though, like in a fucking movie no wait, it was like $32 or something go into your guys' movies before we go to the biggest joke of them all.
Speaker 1:I see what you did there and I love it. I knew I was wondering if that was going to be the big one to end that the talk about horror movies out the way. Okay, first me and other co-host Jay here seen two horror and other co-host Jay here seen two horror movies. Other co-host Matt is not that into horror movies. Select few he'll watch.
Speaker 4:Somehow got him into seeing the Xenomorphs.
Speaker 1:Those aren't horror movies.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't consider those horror movies.
Speaker 2:The first one is, the rest aren't. I don't know.
Speaker 4:The ending of that movie was kind of Aliens is an action movie.
Speaker 1:Oh the ending of Romulo oh the ending of Romulo.
Speaker 4:Oh boy, yeah, I was like oh, oh, god what the fuck is that thing?
Speaker 1:That kind of reminded me of men. Oh no, no, fuck, that was just leaving my brain. Now it's fresh. Fuck. I watched a fucking man, ryan Apple I'm thinking about a man giving birth out of his piss hole or butt. I don't know where he fucking gave birth from. I think it was his ass. No, it was his mouth in that scene. Oh, it's like oh fuck, don't watch A24's men, you'll be scarred for life scarred for fucking life as a woman.
Speaker 4:You'll be laughing your ass off did you?
Speaker 2:did you see any of the new episodes of Rings of Power? You got into the second season, right?
Speaker 4:I watched the second season.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, mr Redbeard teaching Gandalf. That's him. What? That's the same actor. In what Men.
Speaker 4:Fuck you, you don't recognize him because of the beard, because the acting is almost the same.
Speaker 1:Well, he plays a bunch of different men. Yes, but no In men, because men are all the you haven't given Rings of Power.
Speaker 4:Why would I? The first season was ass cheeks but apparently the second.
Speaker 2:The second one's not any better.
Speaker 1:The second, it's not. No, some people have told me the second season's better.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's better because of the first one's trash. It's not a high bar. Putting glitter on shit doesn't make it better.
Speaker 4:It makes it sparkly shit. This one added a lot of glitter, and then it decided to say, alright, we're gonna put some and throw logic out the window. Woo, we're literally gonna put some suckers here to make it look like it has antennae and we're just gonna call it shit, alien Alien. I only need to say one thing Nope, nope. I'm sorry, I missed the cue.
Speaker 2:It's a shit elf Shit unicorn, your elven king, who finally joins the people in the battle and helps them fight, is getting strangled, holed by orcs. He's supposed to be a strong Nassau run Getting strangled by orcs. Where's my money? Where's my orc money?
Speaker 4:Oh god, let's not even talk about the orcs. Where's my money? Where's my orc money, oh God? Let's not even talk about the orcs themselves.
Speaker 2:They have families now.
Speaker 1:I'm going to watch this. I'm just going to think I'm going to have fun. This is stupid, but it's funny.
Speaker 4:No, because you've been making so many political jokes. Oh no, I had to hold myself back there when he said they have families now.
Speaker 1:oh my god, oh my god, but no, back to your horror movies. No, I was, I just wanted to make the point. Make the one more point on men he's, he's playing the same he's you re-triggered his tangent. He's playing the same. Jay will find something funny to say he's playing the same, he's playing different men all over his little village.
Speaker 4:What about the teenagers? Because the movie.
Speaker 1:No, except for them. But he's trying, the movie is and he played the priest no he played the teenager too. Oh yeah, he did. But the movie is trying to say all men are the same. Men are evil bastards. It's a very fuck men movie Okay.
Speaker 4:What was the first one we watched?
Speaker 1:The Greatness. That is Terrifier. 3. The Greatness If you love horror and gore, go see that motherfucker. My co-worker hates the first two, by the way.
Speaker 4:He hates the first two.
Speaker 2:I can understand the first one.
Speaker 1:No, he was watching the first two. By the way, he hates the first two, mm-hmm, I can understand the first one.
Speaker 2:No, he was watching the first two to see if he wanted to go see the third.
Speaker 1:He obviously don't like bloody horror. No, he likes his horror movies but, this is gore porn. Yeah, this is a little over the top, I know.
Speaker 2:I know what it is.
Speaker 4:I recommended it to somebody and I got told what the fuck was that, what the fuck was up with that. What did you just recommend? This is amazing, goreporn, because it's nothing but fucking pure cinematics as far as.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's all practical effects. You guys would know more than me? Can JJ watch those movies?
Speaker 1:Yes, I don't think he can. I think he still has issues with art because he's a clown.
Speaker 2:That's where I was going. I didn't think he looked enough like a clown to trigger it.
Speaker 1:He might. I'd have to re-ask him, but he'd love those JJ has issues with colorful clowns. Yeah, like it.
Speaker 4:Art is not yeah.
Speaker 2:I think he looks more like a demon than a clown. He's just kind of wearing a he is a demon.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, he looks more like that's the literal plot. Yep, he is a demon From two to three.
Speaker 2:I understand he looks more like. I'm just saying he looks more like a demon kind of dressed as a clown.
Speaker 1:Yep, I could see it, but no, that was fun. They're actually expanded the lore of art. And four is gonna be probably the conclusion of his story. Oh, what the hell? We're good Phone's getting fucked. I thought we lost shit, lost the signal.
Speaker 2:No, no, we're good, he got updated I got a message Fuck off.
Speaker 4:Wow, I do it all the time. He doesn't like me getting messages. The reason why I joke about it Dean time.
Speaker 1:I had to do that one on purpose, but no Bloody carnage and fun. They had to do that one on purpose, but, uh, no bloody carnage and fun. They expanded the lore and again, if you don't like blood, don't, don't go see terrifier, that's not for you. Okay, that's, that's not there.
Speaker 4:Jesus christ, that is, that's some shit one of my favorite scenes is one of the stupidest scenes to laugh at, because I could totally see some dumb, ass, idiot asshole out there in real life recreating it. The mall Art dresses up as a clown and starts handing out toys. Santa, he was dressed up as.
Speaker 4:Santa, it's Christmas themed. It's perfectly fine, because the kids are actually enjoying these toys. Then this little asshole kid goes into the bag and starts messing with shit and the parents start getting angry, and all that. Then guess what happens? Everybody dies.
Speaker 1:Everybody fucking dies Because he opens up one of the friends with a bomb. A bunch of kids get blown up. It's in the movie. I mean they don't show it, but a kid gets hacked to death with an axe in the first five minutes.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, the opening act of the movie was amazing, except for the fact that we saw nothing, we only got sounds.
Speaker 2:And that's the part where people were walking out, beginning of the movie, as I recall.
Speaker 1:Which is stupid. They did good not to show. They showed the kid hacked up but they didn't actually show Art doing it. But to a lot of people that's a no-no. I understand it, but at the same time, people, it's fiction. It is fiction, I understand. Don't see it if you know it's no, it's fucking fiction.
Speaker 4:That kid's fine fucking no one goes to movies and thinks that it's like oh hey, guess what I can do this it's fiction, but uh, but no.
Speaker 1:Terrifier 3 was great. There was some great. The shower kill. Oh God, I've never seen a and I am not Spoilers, spoilers, I am not exaggerating. Matt's face is like what? Because this is not exaggeration. He kills a man by shoving a chainsaw up his ass, crack and basically is cutting him in half.
Speaker 4:He loved it, it was something. And then he loved it even more when he seen a dick flopping around because it went through the balls. Well, there's why. No, it's more so. The up the ass thing. There's why. But no, the best dick kill. I had to turn to him. He's like. You know, before this scene ever happened, the guy turns to his woman and says what do you want to fuck him? Art gets all happy yet, but then she had to say it. No, I wouldn't fuck him, he's like. So he walks away all angry and next thing we know we get a scene of them fucking in the shower.
Speaker 1:And here he comes with the chainsaw. But no, the best part, you at the end, make a bloody snow angel, make a bloody snow angel.
Speaker 4:I was so happy, bloody snow. I was the stupidest kind of happy right there Because blood was everywhere and I was like make a snow angel, make a snow angel, make a snow angel. And then he does it. I'm like yes, With that.
Speaker 1:But if you could deal with gore you'd have actually legit a fun time watching that shit. But you can't. You don't like gore.
Speaker 4:That's how I know I'm messed up in the head.
Speaker 1:Oh, we were sitting there enjoying it. But no, I was going to say the best dick kill again not exaggerating was Terrifier 2, where he fucking ripped dude's dick off and shoves it in his face. And I'm not exaggerating, it was an actual kill, I'm not even exaggerating, oh God.
Speaker 4:You have to love gore and blood to actually appreciate these movies, because the plot almost means nothing if you love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're actually making a nice little story.
Speaker 4:We only get actual story in two and three.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because first one is I can understand why your friend or co-worker or whatever didn't like the first one, one introduced us, because the first one is very experimental, even though you do get the hacksaw kill, which is fine.
Speaker 4:To getting him by himself, because I guess this is a part of a five movie. Four, because the fourth one Ninth circle there was one in between that, and then we got the three other ones.
Speaker 1:Well, Art's first appearance was in a little film called All Hallows Eve. Called All Hallows Eve technically Right there.
Speaker 4:That's the one I was missing.
Speaker 1:That was a different actor and everything that really had nothing to do. That was another experiment, this current art story, art, art story, art, that art is on holy shit, a lot of A's, but uh is A, A we are in.
Speaker 1:Milwaukee. Damien confirmed. The director confirmed that the last, the fourth movie is the conclusion of Art Story, so there'll be one more. So good wins, we'll see, I don't know. But okay, then the other, terrifier, is great. That movie is basically almost an indie film that only had a $2 million budget and it's at like over $50 million worldwide. So that movie is just making nothing but pure money at this point.
Speaker 4:Art, at this point has literally joined the upper echelon of horror icons.
Speaker 1:Yes, the other one we've seen was Smile 2.
Speaker 4:Were you waiting for me to smile? Yep, I couldn't do it to you. I had chips in my mouth.
Speaker 1:I had chips. Smile 2 was also fun, on the same tier as the original, as the first one. Oh, he's smiling at me, son of a bitch, what I'll save that one for later.
Speaker 4:Oh no, uh-oh, you do this to us all the time. You think I do it to him, but you do it to us too.
Speaker 2:It's coming up in the next movie. Okay.
Speaker 4:Oh boy, so oh boy.
Speaker 1:So Smile 2. Smile 2 was fun. That was again pretty much the same as the first one. It was fun, it was a little, it was creepier.
Speaker 4:It was a little creepier that one definitely had more psychological.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because of the fucking inner room and everyone's smiling and the guy with the light bulb.
Speaker 4:No, you got. That was my favorite part right there, my favorite part of Smile 2.
Speaker 1:Now, great movie, great overall, but this is just me being fucking having the fucking humor of a fucking high schooler when I'm 30 years old. But that's the side Him driving home was a trip Because I couldn't get off of this scene Because I don't know what the fuck the point is. So I'll set the stage In the beginning. It's the story of a pop star. She's a pop star and she's signing autographs. This crazy psycho fan gets her t-shirt, get signs the t-shirt. He's a psycho. He's crazy. They escort him out of there.
Speaker 4:Dude's got like scabies or some shit, you could tell he was like a bum or something can you sign this for me, sky?
Speaker 1:can you sign this for me? He's a fucking nut job. And so later on, the scene keeps going and you see that same t-shirt and it's a trail of clothes and we're like, holy shit, this psycho's in her fucking apartment. We knew exactly what was going to happen, and then they did it oh, god damn it, it's in my head again. They get the dude's tighty whities on the fucking ground they just fuck tighty wh.
Speaker 4:by the way, Not something this man should even be wearing. It's starting again and for some reason they put brown shit stains in his fucking underwear man, the one thing that actually does not leave his head Like what? Not no Skid mark underpants?
Speaker 1:Not the point of the just who the the fuck said that on set? I want to know hey, put some shit stick, put a skid mark in his underwear. What the fuck? Who said that? It's we're men, men, we get them. Probably women too. Sorry, women is true, but get some skid, that's no one fuck you.
Speaker 4:I had to because I got you in a car too but I just wasn't almost crashed like he could not fucking drive straight. I was crying. I was crying because I couldn't.
Speaker 1:My brother kept getting him with the line of the skid marks and everything and then we drove by these fucking girls in the car next to us and I was like, hey, I wonder if, wonder if they got some skin marks in their shit. And then the whole car started fucking dying. I never expected that fucking that to kill me like that. I just I didn't expect it. Well, even you, though, they showed them and you're like I heard you what the fuck?
Speaker 4:And he's like I lost it too. I know I did. But then I went back into the movie when I seen the fucking montage of people following her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did too, I did too. Okay, what else was fucking no?
Speaker 4:that one was fun, them actually revealing the smile demon.
Speaker 1:Oh, the fucking weird, creepy, grotesque skin thing. It was like made of skin.
Speaker 4:Where it had multiple mouths.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like what the fuck? But?
Speaker 4:that one it was Leaving it open for a third movie was excellent.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, when she killed her spoilers, spoilers she killed herself on stage, spreading the curse of the smile demon to everyone in Madison Square Garden. And I'm like, bro, the third movie could be pure fucking chaos, Pure fucking chaos. I'm like, oh, I'm all ready. I'm like, oh, I'm all ready, I'm here for it, I'm fucking here for it. And it was a mind. Oh, one other funny joke.
Speaker 4:When she was like oh, I can't believe I'm going to die in a freezer of a pizza hut. My joke to you that is no fucking pizza hut that is no pizza hut freezer. It's too big. The building itself did look like a pizza hut, but once they got into the freezer it's like it's the size of his fucking basement Set in the scene.
Speaker 1:The doctor that she met with said he had to kill her. He had to kill her but then resuscitate her to defeat the demon. So she couldn't pass the demon on and shit, so she couldn't kill herself in front of it. Here's the kicker.
Speaker 4:That might not have been real. Yeah, we have no idea what was true or not in that movie. That's how fucked up that movie was. We could not tell what was real and what wasn't.
Speaker 2:at some point, yeah, I knew they did the switch at the end where she's on stage and then she kills herself and spreads the curse and it ends but my thing was the whole scene where she killed her fucking mother.
Speaker 1:That was fake. It didn't happen.
Speaker 2:It's all fake it didn't happen Because she's on the. She's out on the stage.
Speaker 1:It was ridiculous, that was a mindfuck. We couldn't tell when the fake started. Yeah, there was, my God, there was some fucking. That was good too. I didn't expect that. I thought it might take a step back. No, smile too was just as good as the first one. Like I said, the third one could be bonkers. I think the third one could be fucking bonkers. It has great potential, okay, so okay, well, that was it.
Speaker 4:That was the big two we didn't see with you.
Speaker 1:That was the big two we didn't see with Matt, the one you saw without us.
Speaker 4:Here we go, here we go, boy, we actually followed the critics and audience on this one.
Speaker 1:I know enough to be able to engage in conversation, but here we go. Did you watch like a bootleg or you ain't seen it either?
Speaker 4:No, I didn't. I have not either, so I haven't even given the bootleg a chance.
Speaker 2:Well, you should give it the boot to something.
Speaker 4:Here comes.
Speaker 1:Matt's review of Joker Folly Adu. I can't.
Speaker 4:This is going to turn into a musical.
Speaker 1:Joker Folly Adu. Is this gonna turn?
Speaker 4:into a musical joker, folly, ado. What am I gonna do with you there? You go get this. You go then forget.
Speaker 2:I tried to start a musical that actually probably fit more than you thought. Yeah, forget it honestly forget it.
Speaker 1:You don't know how to. Oh god, oh god, it's where are we at, lady?
Speaker 2:Gaga's Harley Quinn isn't the worst part of this movie really?
Speaker 1:people hammering the shit out of it.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised a lot of people aren't handling her part.
Speaker 1:She did fine people say Joaquin still did his thing.
Speaker 2:Yes the problem is he's officially not the Joker the fuck is he at the end of the.
Speaker 1:I will say I, because I know the end, because I do kind of want to see it. I didn't read that I, at the end, I didn't give this movie at the end arthur is stabbed and killed in arkham by a, a guy who starts laughing hysterically and then carves a smile and smile into his face he's killed by the actual person who's going to become the Joker. That is the end of Joker 2. And it's cutting the smiles in. It's alluding to Ledger in a way, kind of.
Speaker 2:That is where the movie lost a lot of credit.
Speaker 4:The ending is where everybody is like fuck you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, from what I see what about the?
Speaker 4:Isn't there a whole fucking new talk show angle? Or is that just in his head? That's it.
Speaker 2:That's all. That's everything that's musicaled in his head. That is all in his head. That is him hallucinating and doing whatever he wants.
Speaker 4:So is Lady Gaga an actual nurse or a? She's a patient.
Speaker 2:She's put herself in to meet him. So that aspect of her being a fangirl of his soul, her falling in love with him, and it didn't do enough. It did enough with her interacting with him that you were sold that she was a fangirl of his, or of at least the Joker. That was the Harley that we understood, but they didn't nail the beginning of it that showed you how she fell in love with him. So you're questioning the start of the relationship, because we all know how it starts. Being in a room psychologically evaluating him is what broke her brain, dr Harleen Quinzel.
Speaker 2:She was already broken by the time she wanted to meet him. Yeah, so you didn't get the mix.
Speaker 4:First we talk about men, then we talk about women.
Speaker 2:Everyone's getting it. So that was my biggest break with Harley. By the end of it, she wants nothing to do with him because he's not the Joker.
Speaker 1:You're not the Joker. You're trash now. Women Duh, you're trash now I found this new guy. Damn it.
Speaker 2:This movie would have done a lot better if you hadn't made the tie-ins to Batman. Harvey Dent was in it, the first one.
Speaker 1:Yes, harvey Dent was in it.
Speaker 3:Was he.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:Is Harvey, or did he end up? I believe there was an accident that probably might turn him into Two-Face, I thought.
Speaker 2:But he's in it, harvey Dent's in it Technically, not because of the mythos, because Bat the whole acid and all that shit.
Speaker 1:Yes, harvey Dent's in it, technically, not because of the mythos. The whole acid and all that shit.
Speaker 4:yes, harvey Dent and Batman being friends, type thing, no.
Speaker 2:Harvey becoming Two-Face in whatever manner doesn't fit, because Bruce isn't old enough. The problem with number one Bruce isn't old enough to do anything with these characters and by the time he's Batman, they't old enough to do anything with these characters and by the time he's Batman, they're too old to do anything with him. It was the problem with Joaquin, it's going to be the problem with DA District Attorney Harvey Dent. So it's just that problem.
Speaker 4:We got this movie just because it was already in production.
Speaker 1:Yes, and they wanted to try to cash in on money, but it flopped there were ways you could have shot the first movie.
Speaker 2:You could still have called the movie Joker. You could still call this Joker fully adieu and get criticized for making it a musical. But if you did nothing in terms dude name, if you got rid of all of the Wayne stuff from the first one and just let it go, you didn't even need him to think that he had a biological father.
Speaker 1:I forgot about that weird fucking angle. Yeah, In the first one Like the fuck that's my brother.
Speaker 2:You could have cut this entire movie.
Speaker 4:Oh God, you loved that brother angle though.
Speaker 2:In one, not really.
Speaker 1:I'm talking Joker in general. I was in the first movie. I'm like the fuck.
Speaker 2:Imagine if you shot this entire movie, didn't say what the city was. You do all of this stuff. The TV show Him doing the comedian, all whatsoever, his slow breakdown into it Never say the name of the city. The only tie-in you got for the Batman movie was the family walking down the alley. Yeah, that's all you. If that would have been the only tease and that would have been the only connection you had with it, this movie would have been a lot better.
Speaker 4:So what you're saying is, this could have been an entirely different named movie, entirely different universe. No, you could have kept the name and it would have been good.
Speaker 2:No, you could have kept the name. You could have just called the movie Joker. It wouldn't have meant anything, just made no reference to Batman in the entire movie, until the end.
Speaker 4:Because my thought process went off, that take the plot of this and the second movie, but don't put any fucking Batman shit in there whatsoever. Gotham, nothing like that, and just let the movie roll.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then you could have picked up exactly where you did and shot this movie and not said he was the Joker. Just say he was the inspiration and that movie would have done better. But now you've spent an entire movie saying this is Joker, to say pull the rug out from under you and say nope.
Speaker 1:Didn't he come up to him and be like, hey, you want to hear a joke, didn't?
Speaker 3:he hit him with like a classic.
Speaker 1:Joker line too. You want to hear a joke. And then when he hits the punchline he just starts stabbing the shit out of Arthur. He's laughing hysterically and he does the fucking. That's the thing. I'm like. That's a ledger. You're calling to ledger?
Speaker 2:Because Arthur Fleck couldn't handle the prestige of so many people looking at him as the Joker. He couldn't handle it. He was a crybaby.
Speaker 4:So he actually went nuts.
Speaker 2:More than he was a crybaby. So he actually went nuts More than he was.
Speaker 1:No, he felt sorry for the people that he killed. What, oh? That totally just says fuck you to Joker who Joker is. That's why he wasn't Joker Yep.
Speaker 4:Another two, two big gripes. I can't see my face right now, but it's kind of Two big gripes that I Flabbergasted.
Speaker 1:Matt has seen it. I can't judge myself, but two big gripes that All my reviewers said it's utter trash. They hated it. But one gripe I heard was oh goddamn, I know why I'll remember. The first one was this movie is just the musicals. Segments of a musical are supposed to move the story along and talk about the story and tell you what's going on and shit and explain things. One of their gripes was these musicals are so fucking random, it takes you away from the story and they almost mean nothing.
Speaker 1:Two of them most of it's almost a poem. Here they're singing again. I can tune out.
Speaker 2:That's basically what you do in most of them. There are two where it takes place in the scene that he's in and it just does the camera fade where nobody. It's just like you know something's off and so people aren't watching him. He's just doing the singing and the dancing. There are two of those One when he's in prison and one when he's in the courtroom. The other ones completely take you out of the movie. It's all in his head. It's where you get on the stage with the talk show. You get on the stage where they're dancing.
Speaker 1:So I'm getting whenever most of the musicals start. It's like, oh, musical Phone time.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 4:So this is definitely one of those movies where I could just put on for shit. Yeah, I need background music or background noise.
Speaker 2:With him saying that the musicals are usually designed to push you forward.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Traditional musicals.
Speaker 2:Yes, greatest show, these go off. This is the musical design where it bases off the main point of what was just said, or off the thing that was just said. Oh God, yeah, another one.
Speaker 1:God yeah, another one too. This was another big gripe and I agreed with this gripe. But again, matt could attest to it or disagree with another gripe I heard the first Joker works so well because it's grounded in realism. The first Joker had something to say. It was a movie about mental illness and how it affects different people differently and how people with mental illness take things. And he's like there's none of that in this movie. This movie has no message. It's not saying shit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they kind of did put that point across in the first one how normal people interact with people with mental illness.
Speaker 1:His disease is laughing. He laughs at random shit. That's a real thing.
Speaker 2:And that kind of goes away for like 90% of the movie.
Speaker 4:He doesn't do it anymore.
Speaker 2:He does it on the car and then he starts feeling sorry for killing people. I think he breaks out laughing once in the courtroom and then once in the car on the way to the courtroom the first time he goes.
Speaker 4:Well, what the fuck? Arkham did its job. He feels sorry for killing people and he no longer laughs. Rehabilitated? Oh God, no.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know. Okay, that's pretty much just ranting on. Joker is terrible. Another thing I just thought of right now to bring up. Matt cannot comment on this currently, but he will be able to eventually, or I'm going to have to come the fuck over here at some point. I'm lost.
Speaker 2:I don't know where I'm going. Oh, I know where he's going.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:It just clicked in my brain.
Speaker 1:If you have Max, you need to be watching the Penguin. Yes, it is fucking phenomenal, every fucking episode. Just hit, hit, hit, hit. I'm not even kidding. What is his name?
Speaker 4:again the kid. What is the name of the kid? Victor Victor. I like him. He didn't turn out to what people thought he was going to be.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:But I still like him.
Speaker 1:There's people thinking he's going to yeah. That's why I said Matt can't. People thought he was going to turn into Zazz.
Speaker 4:No, he actually turns into the humanization of the entire show. Yep, but Penguin does a damn good job of that himself.
Speaker 1:I don't know, like I said, I'd have to come over here and log into my account format, or Matt's gonna have to wait until it comes out on a Blu-ray, or when it's available to watch.
Speaker 4:Do we only have one more episode or is it already?
Speaker 1:out. It's getting there. I don't know what are we on? Five or six?
Speaker 2:I think there's only supposed to be seven.
Speaker 1:I think there's eight, but we're almost done okay, so we're almost done, but I guarantee I don't know if you'd love it, like me and jade, but you would like it a lot as long as it doesn't, as long as it doesn't feel like it's supposed to be two different movies, I'm fine nope, they. They are doing so well the entire joke.
Speaker 2:That was a joke on the bat.
Speaker 1:No, they're handling that so well because people are already bitching about it. One thing people are griping with the show. I don't understand. Where's Batman? You fucking idiots.
Speaker 4:Do you realize how much of that fucking?
Speaker 1:city he's got to traverse. Batman, they always are playing radio news in the background of all the fucked up shit going on. Batman is busy. He does not have time to deal with Penguin Oz.
Speaker 4:He does not have fucking time People are fucking raiding buildings. They're, you know, stealing tires off of cars. Hey look, yeah, guess who we just got in that movie. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a reference and I didn't even realize it.
Speaker 1:Yep, oh fuck yeah, jason. Todd yeah, colin Farrell is making Penguin fucking cool. I always thought Penguin was fucking lame and he wasn't really. He had no respect for Penguin until Colin Farrell. This has made me enjoy Penguin. I actually liked Penguin before. I'm sorry, I couldn't take Danny DeVito fucking seriously Like the fuck are you serious?
Speaker 2:That was still a pretty decent portrayal of him being raised by penguins.
Speaker 4:Leave it to Tim Burton to do something like that. By the way, he was raised by penguins and look how well it worked.
Speaker 2:Leave Tim Burton to make his Edward Scissorhands and Beetlejuices and we're fine.
Speaker 4:Don't touch Batman please, oh, fuck off. The first one was great. What.
Speaker 1:Which one?
Speaker 4:And then it became Tim.
Speaker 2:Burton it became. It was great because you could let Tim Burton have the Joker. That's all you needed Giving him the penguin made it weird, he was raised by penguins.
Speaker 1:Fuck off, I got Catwoman out of that. Michelle Pfeiffer, the best Catwoman.
Speaker 4:I have a weird asphyxiation with latex because of that woman.
Speaker 2:Oh, Jesus Christ. That's not a surprise.
Speaker 1:I mean Michelle Pfeiffer is the best there's been so many. There's been a few Catwomen. I mean Anne Hathaway was okay, even though that a lot of people have their issues.
Speaker 4:Asphyxiation might not have been the right word.
Speaker 1:Have their issue with realistic takes.
Speaker 2:Appreciation was the correct word. Yes, asphyxiation means you can't breathe, which is still appropriate.
Speaker 1:When you're sitting on my face, I can't breathe.
Speaker 2:Which is still appropriate. For a secondary reason, you don't think you took it the right way. I know Asphyxiation was not the right word. Asphyxiation was not the right word In the wrong context.
Speaker 1:Zoe Kravitz has time to grow, though she could be a decent Catwoman. I think she has time to grow, though, as long as you're not letting her direct, fine. I want her to have a better suit. Halle Berry's Catwoman needs to go to the deepest, darkest dungeon and never be seen again. Never again. Please Leave her what-if story alone. I will not. That was bad. I lost brain cells watching it. I'm already.
Speaker 2:No, you did not, I already don't have any Shit. At least she's honest.
Speaker 4:I can't argue that. Neither one of us can argue with that.
Speaker 1:That made me go negative. I went negative brain cells. How'd you gain them back? I don't know. I think they're probably. They're probably still just going negative, but I'm trying, I don't know. I turn into wiki man, then they go a thousand percent positive for a second no, no, no, that's your storage bank.
Speaker 4:No one touched the storage bank but no, oh but no.
Speaker 1:Penguin is great, penguin is great, I I great show and you know what Might as well for 10 minutes. Then we got the Marvel show, currently Agatha.
Speaker 4:You're not even going to talk about your favorite part of the show, aside from Penguin. What the Hangman oh.
Speaker 1:That's how I'm going to introduce her every time to him. As much as great as fucking Colin Farrell is, who plays Sophia Falcone. She makes the show as well.
Speaker 2:I need her name I heard she has a positive film.
Speaker 1:I need her. Uh, fuck Christine Malati. The only problem she owns every fucking scene she's into, just like Colin Farrell does.
Speaker 4:She makes the character herself. The only problem with her character is she looks nothing like her comic counterpart.
Speaker 1:Nothing, because Kangman's got like a brace around her head and shit. No, she's muscly too, yeah.
Speaker 4:She's big buff you know basically.
Speaker 2:Just give her some venom.
Speaker 4:What was that movie Enchanted Encanto? Encanto, Basically his favorite character. Enchanted Different fucking Encanto, basically his favorite character.
Speaker 1:Enchanted. She was introduced in Long Halloween Classic story. That's where she was first introduced. Long Halloween is a grounded Falcone story oh. Jesus Christ. Thank you, enchanted, damn it, wrong cat word.
Speaker 4:But no, she owns Still like the bike scene, though that's not all you like. Hey, I'm not alone on that one. He stares at asses too.
Speaker 2:We know I keep making the joke about Scarlet Witch.
Speaker 1:Shut up, Dean. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2:No, no, shut up.
Speaker 1:You're supposed to talk. No, I was going to say no, no, no, no, I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2:You can't get any worse than fluffer.
Speaker 1:I don't want to talk about my dick. I don't want to talk about it. You always want to talk about your dick. What I'm trying not to. It's not mentioned enough. Jesus Christ, it's always mentioned. Somehow it comes up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like it when he does it to himself. Shit.
Speaker 4:Somehow it comes up. It's not home yet. Don't let him do it to himself.
Speaker 1:Oh god, but yes, please, he fucks himself. But Okay, now, with my love for Sophia Falcone, she carries that show just as much as Oz does. Do you want some mushrooms? Oh jeez, oh yeah, the mushroom drug. No, I'm waiting for more references, though They've got to start hitting me with some of them. References in Penguin. I need some references.
Speaker 4:I'm just going to just what to other villains or what? Yeah, I need what are you looking for?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want to know about this we're getting a very grounded Gotham and I like it.
Speaker 2:I want to know about the psychotic clown that used to be crazy but now he's in Arkham.
Speaker 4:We know he already exists. We're not getting the deleted cutscene.
Speaker 1:The Joker is pretty much cast in that universe. Yeah, he's already been shown, it's. Barry Keegan who I want to see, so bad. Yeah, now you do.
Speaker 4:Bring up Saltbird. Please Gotta bring it up somehow, because that's the reason why you're like yes, do it, do it, do it.
Speaker 1:Low-key Saltbird's like God this guy. But his deleted scene as Joker was really good.
Speaker 4:I liked it, I just didn't like his face.
Speaker 1:He's deformed, he's very deformed. Well, he fell in acid, Probably going realistic of what acid might do to you. But uh, I mean, look at what it did to the fucking 89 Joker. It just made him white, it just made him pale Like no acid's gonna burn the shit out of you.
Speaker 4:but okay, that's a completely different narrative.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what the fuck.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna turn you white. You're evil now.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, I mean technically. The black guy is the hero in the movie the Dark.
Speaker 3:Knight.
Speaker 1:The tables have turned.
Speaker 2:The Dark Knight. Oh shit, oh God.
Speaker 4:No, that's even worse because it's a white guy with a black mask.
Speaker 1:He's in blackface, yep, oh shit Like.
Speaker 2:Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder. Technically it's not blackface, technically it's Black Hood.
Speaker 4:No, there's a red hood.
Speaker 2:There's the other joke, the other end of the joke, oh God.
Speaker 4:All right, fine, moving on from Batman.
Speaker 2:He was trying to get to.
Speaker 1:I wanted just to mention Agatha because it's going. I thought I would be, I'd be a back, a lot of. I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 4:When we first talked about this, a lot of the Disney. None of us had faith in this show in the beginning.
Speaker 1:A lot of us.
Speaker 2:I still don't.
Speaker 1:A lot of us have the Disney. Did you watch it at all?
Speaker 2:I'm not going to. Why not? Because I have no interest. It's just another project that's going to get left on the Blackburner and nobody's going to care it better fucking not, it's going to.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they mentioned Mephisto. We're literally getting the Young Avengers.
Speaker 2:Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:And Lady Death. So Deadpool and Thanos can fight.
Speaker 4:He's just fucking Thanos for this show at this point. Lady Death.
Speaker 1:Pops revealed something to him and he's just been waiting for it to show up. Lady Death, now Deadpool and Thanos can fight over. Yeah, ah shit, thanos is dead, son of a bitch. Different Thanos, different universe. We'll figure it out, they'll figure it out. So I'm like, yeah, we're going to use Lady Death now.
Speaker 4:I know what he's going to go home and dream about now, oh shit. But it's oddly entertaining and most of the Disney Plus shows son of a bitch. It's kind of funny that the lady is the one furthest away from me. Usually it's the one closest.
Speaker 1:Most of the Disney Plus shows are almost borderline background noise to me. I barely pay attention to them. After about the third episode I lose interest.
Speaker 4:But I've been actually paying attention to Agatha. I liked WandaVision and this one leaned into that same thing, while still telling a story.
Speaker 1:I liked WandaVision but WandaVision got a little slow to me until it finally started. The elements started kicking in. You didn't like the sitcoms? Yeah, I was like.
Speaker 4:I actually did like the sitcoms the same way that they did it in this one, but with music, yeah.
Speaker 1:I can see it, but, like I said, that one was slow, I still enjoyed Winter Soldier Fucking Winter. Soldier. Thank you, that is, I think. Story-wise, that is still my favorite.
Speaker 4:Zemo's still not my favorite, though he did put on the mask.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the only thing I didn't like about that was technically the Flag Smasher arc of it. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I about. That was technically the Flag Smasher arc of it. You couldn't get their whole thing. We want to take our land back. What the f-? What? Everybody's back now.
Speaker 1:Where do you think they're going to want to go? I'm not opposed to throwing some political stuff in us, but I'm like they're laying this shit on thick.
Speaker 4:To be fair, they were Just call the world Jerusalem then.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry I went there, oh god, that was like to be fair. My bad, he has a point, he's trying to make a point.
Speaker 2:To be fair, it was dealing with a topic that was a big question mark. It's like how is the world going to deal with, all of a sudden, there being millions of people being brought back to life? Yeah, so I understood that message and the Flagmasters touched on it. It just the villains. It just didn't land as a villain arc. Not, really, no, I understand the problem they wanted to address.
Speaker 1:I thought Wyatt Russell was actually great. I liked Wyatt Russell.
Speaker 4:I'm glad he's continuing to be his character. Yep, um what, um God?
Speaker 1:Can't wait for character Yep.
Speaker 3:Um, what, um? God see Thunderbolts.
Speaker 1:Can't wait for Bob Bob.
Speaker 4:I'm Bob. He's gonna continue giving me shit the entire time he's on screen.
Speaker 2:Um, at least he's not Steven Ewan.
Speaker 1:Moon Knight. I like most of Moon Knight. I like Moon Knight. Had some episodes with Moon Knight. I like Hawkeye. I like Hawkeye too.
Speaker 4:I like Hawkeye a lot too, you like the dog.
Speaker 1:That's because, lucky the Pizza Dog, he was the goat. No, and I Haley Steinfeld.
Speaker 2:And Bringing Back Kingpin.
Speaker 4:Yep, oh yes.
Speaker 2:So that Ah fuck, but then Then Echo happened.
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh, okay. No, I like the backstory. You know the whole tribal thing that they're trying to do. That was cool.
Speaker 2:That power set was just weird.
Speaker 1:Echo fell off because Echo the first episode or two first episode when Daredevil cameoed, I'm like, ooh, let me watch this.
Speaker 4:This might be good. Do you remember the character that they created? Just for what If?
Speaker 3:The Native.
Speaker 4:American. Why didn't we just get that then, if they were going to pull that angle?
Speaker 2:My issue is that she doesn't know what she wants to be.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she still doesn't know if she's a hero or not, I don't mind. An anti-hero yeah.
Speaker 2:We could use more of those yeah. But unfortunately she's still very evil intenton.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she wants to be gang-led and you know, do that shit.
Speaker 1:That show didn't know what it wanted to be, no. But like I said, the first episode, no, that rivals two shows. The first episode with the cameo this got some potential. That shit fell the fuck off so bad for a while, but I still think it's the second worst one. Do you want to know what fell off? Fucking people might disagree with Miss Marvel. The first episode I was like, okay, well, we got something, this might be all right. Fell the fuck off, so I don't care anymore.
Speaker 4:Me. You watched it. We didn't even barely pay attention.
Speaker 2:That show kind of did deviate into a second show without.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're like the fuck is this now?
Speaker 3:You were giving her an origin story and then you built on the origin story and then took her out of her origin story and built it into something else I love her as an actress.
Speaker 1:I like her. I love her as an actress because of her passion to play the character.
Speaker 4:Don't make me speak like Trump anymore than I already have with that, because of the character.
Speaker 1:She loves playing the character.
Speaker 2:The being of Sebastian Stan, oh lord.
Speaker 4:It's just the way I phrase it, I like her a lot, and then the way I phrase it, I like her a lot Then. I even did the fucking hand move.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that fell off, we'll get you a wig it'll work.
Speaker 4:The way that they explain her powers, mutant, no, her fucking, especially in the Ms Marvel movie. It's still connected to the band. It's not her powers, mutant. The only reason she's able to do anything is because of the Ms Marvel movie. It's still connected to the band. It's not her powers. The only reason she's able to do anything is because of the band Right right and her familial ties to the band, which happens to be an alien, fucking artifact.
Speaker 4:Yep, very true, that's the only reason why I'm not getting behind her character in the MCU Low-key. I love her as a young Avenger in the comics though.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh no, no, he's in college now. He can be a mentor, kind of he can be. He's there, pete Yep, he can. He's got to be a mentor. Well, there was rumors he was going to lead the young Avengers or just be the new leader.
Speaker 4:Be the new leader would be great, because then we could set way into him giving us no leaders in the next movie.
Speaker 1:Sam, oh, fucking shit.
Speaker 2:That was a Hulk joke.
Speaker 4:Oh fuck, that's why he did that, because it is actually the same actor that was in Incredible. Incredible, I just. But you remember how in Incredible Hulk he turned gray? Yeah, so I thought it was fucking Gargoyle. No, that wasn't Gargoyle, that's the leader. Yeah, fucking pissed me off.
Speaker 1:But um, loki was a great run, loki. Actually I love Loki's show.
Speaker 4:Now we got the storyteller.
Speaker 1:Yep, king of stories, loki.
Speaker 4:That means anything that happens in this MCU storyline is something that he decided. I'm sorry though.
Speaker 1:One thing I need before. I don't know if it's ever going to happen, but one thing I do need because Hemsworth is not. He's going to come back apparently. He said he's not done One more movie at least, but Thor needs to find Loki. I need that moment. I need it. When you watch Thor, love and Thunder and when Thor gets stripped yeah, funny. But you see Loki's tattoo on his back as bickered as they were. Thor loved Loki. He needs to see Loki again. I need that moment. I need it Loki's.
Speaker 4:That was the saddest hammer down ever. Think of the.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 4:I didn't mean for you to do it the second time.
Speaker 3:It's just the first time.
Speaker 4:I just You're so soft.
Speaker 1:But Gentle, gentle, just a little, I gotta be gentle. I don't want to hurt, but what do you? What? I gotta be gentle, I don't want to hurt nobody, but uh, you could have took that different way. You see, I broke him again. I did it on purpose, though, but what I wanted to say rape okay, you can say that too we're just comedy, no nobody.
Speaker 4:the problem with this is they're listening to us. They can't see us interacting, but Loki's.
Speaker 1:When you think of Loki season 2, loki ended tragic. His whole story is him being alone. And now he's alone again, completely alone, like bruh. That's sad. He's like just sitting there alone. So someone's gotta Someone's gotta go there and find him, but somebody's gotta be like what the fuck? Oh, werewolf by night was great and then they're not gonna do nothing with that ever cause he killed off blade.
Speaker 2:That was your next tie in got nothing to do with the black knight. You got nothing to do with blade. You got nothing to do with man thing and got nothing to do with Black Knight. You got nothing to do with Blade. You got nothing to do with man thing.
Speaker 4:You have Batman on the brain.
Speaker 2:Black Knight, Dark Knight, same. Thing.
Speaker 4:Absolutely not, Especially in Arthurian lore. Dark Knight and the Black Knight are two different people.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah, because yeah werewolf by night, nothing. A lot of Marvel's you got your man thing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was cool. I can't say that to you.
Speaker 1:I cannot say that in a sentence to him, you got your man.
Speaker 4:Thing.
Speaker 3:I knew what I meant, he knew what I meant, you knew what I meant, but they won't know what I mean.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4:Half of Marvel's TV. You got your green thing. No, that still doesn't work.
Speaker 1:Half of Marvel's TV show is just kind of.
Speaker 2:Let's probably get that checked.
Speaker 4:Half of Marvel's TV show is just. You got your big green, lovable monster.
Speaker 1:Yep Half of Marvel's TV. That's a swan thing.
Speaker 4:That was a great show that ended poorly.
Speaker 1:Half. That was a great show that ended poorly. Half of Marvel's TV show is just.
Speaker 4:It gave us Constantine.
Speaker 1:Yes, Then we you said we had She-Hulk Shut up. One of the gripes people had actually didn't make sense. She's always talking to you and breaking the fourth wall. I'm like that's what she does. That's what she does. Leave that alone. That's what she does. If you want to bitch about the whole twerking with Megan Thee Stallion, that's fine. I liked it. We know why I liked it. Big green woman dominating.
Speaker 4:Wasn't that just an end credit scene at that too? Yes, I liked it, big green woman dominating.
Speaker 1:Wasn't that just an end credit scene at that too? Yeah, it was just. I'm like the fuck. I'm happy I stayed for the crumb. Hey, look at that, the fuck, it took me off guard. Though I didn't expect it, it didn't take you off guard, oh and then I wasn't expecting it.
Speaker 2:It lowered his defenses.
Speaker 4:Wait a minute.
Speaker 1:And then one of Jay's most hated 10 seconds in MCU history the fucking family picnic at the end. This is my son Jay. I'm done. Why do you do this to me? Why?
Speaker 2:Why is Hulk, why is my favorite? A fucking walking joke to you. I'm going to move on to my other tangent just get him to shut up.
Speaker 4:Uh-oh, uh-oh, are you sure you're going to do that? He's kind of hyped right now. I mentioned every show.
Speaker 2:It's another franchise he's hyped with.
Speaker 1:If someone has another topic, I'm all game Half of my shit. I get rambled, but I had to mention the stars.
Speaker 2:This is still owned by Disney.
Speaker 4:Why do we say that when it comes to Disney? Alan?
Speaker 1:Because Disney owns everything. Yeah, disney Fuck Anything. They own so much shit, anything they try to buy. Now the government's going to say no because it's a monopoly.
Speaker 4:No, no, no no.
Speaker 1:I need a.
Speaker 4:Will Ferrell Disney movie now. Oh God, big business, oh.
Speaker 2:No, he's too busy singing and being happy. You can pay with Apple Pay. Yeah, no. So apparently we're getting two Predator projects this year, next year.
Speaker 4:Oh fuck, you know it's hard to remember that Disney actually does own Hulu now.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Technically, it's owned Hulu longer than it's owned 20th Century Fox. Yes, yeah, so one will be called Predator Badlands Yep, which we have no clue. I had a thought about that movie, but it's probably going to be 100% wrong.
Speaker 4:I would actually love if they did the swashbuckler angle better.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the second part of my tie-in. So me and my co-worker were debating about this and a thought occurred to me as we were talking about Badlands, like where are the Badlands, where are they located, what happened there? And I said this started the tangent of are the Badlands, where are they located? What happened there? And I said this started the tangent of what. Custer's last stand being the concept for Badlands, Whereas, like I was getting as long as somehow one of the predators doesn't die with a blanket.
Speaker 4:Oh my god, we gave him smallpox.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was just the concept, because it was Custer versus the Native Americans. You already have prey of Predator with the Native Americans. There's an obvious tie-in there of Custer and the Native Americans trying to kill Predator and the Predator winning. It was just the movie concept that popped into my head and this kind of started the chain result of where we would put Predators next. You could do Predator?
Speaker 4:No, I don't like that.
Speaker 3:We already made the white man bad joke.
Speaker 4:Predator shouldn't go there.
Speaker 2:We already kind of did, though, but there are several different variations of Predator movies that we were kind of talking about. It's like aliens done it enough this is all Predator movies ever needed to be. Was Predator? Going to different eras of the world and fighting people? That's all it never needed to be. Predator vs Samurai Predator vs Ninja Predator vs Samurai Predator vs Ninja, predator vs Vikings Vikings, yeah, predator in World War I or II.
Speaker 1:Holy shit.
Speaker 3:Predator killing Nazis.
Speaker 4:Right there, I'll take that one. How did Hitler actually die? We?
Speaker 2:know, that was the concept we thought about too. How did he die?
Speaker 1:Hitler existed in our boulders gate playthrough too. Remember that. Fuck you the mushrooms.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was high. I was high, too much haystrooms.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that Predator and Alien's got a show coming. It's like Alien Earth or some shit. They got a show coming, Got all these franchises coming back.
Speaker 2:Predator and Libertalia. You get your Predator and Libertalia yeah, it's the Pirates. There's so many different concepts.
Speaker 4:I want that one right there. That one right there is amazing, because then we actually have the tie-in to Predator 2.
Speaker 2:I literally said that if they did Predator on a boat, it just turned out to be like Last Voyage of the Demeter, invisible enemy killing everyone.
Speaker 1:Wait, what do you mean? I never watched it it's good.
Speaker 4:Is it actually that it's pretty good? Wait, what do you mean? I never watched it. Is it actually that Vampire in a fucking boat? It's not like little girl vampire.
Speaker 2:I already told them what my biggest gripe was. He looks more. He looks like a cross between Nosferatu and something even uglier.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's Dracula's supposed to be pretty. He's uglier than Nosferatu, because the reason they made Nosferatu look the way he does is to make him look ugly. Yeah, but most of the concepts of him are Because they're actually literally trying to defy what vampires were made into.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's even uglier, they're monsters, people.
Speaker 4:They're not something that you're supposed to let suck you.
Speaker 2:The ending, the ending scenes of the Last Voyage of the Meter is literally the monster playing him in a bar with people and nobody commenting on it. It's like this guy looks fucking monstrous and he's in a bar casually with people hey, what's up, friend, what? That's what.
Speaker 1:That was the most unbelievable thing about it there's probably a bunch of white people in the gallery. They're very accepting.
Speaker 2:It was London.
Speaker 1:They're very accepting. They're very accepting All my friends, well, my black friends at work. Like Dean, you want to know something funny. White people are the friendliest people you'll ever meet. You can be at a random little gathering like hey, you got anybody to hang out with. No, I'm by myself.
Speaker 3:Come on over here with us. Come by myself.
Speaker 4:Come on over here with us, come on over here with us Fucking white people, I'm the first to stab you in the back.
Speaker 1:Yep, come over here with us, come over here with us. But oh god, let's see that doesn't include you. Why, huh? Oh yeah, my honorary card. I forgot about that.
Speaker 2:It took him a bit to get that he didn't hear what you said at first. I barely heard what you said at first, that doesn't include you.
Speaker 4:Oh great, I'm segregating him now, damn it.
Speaker 1:I don't have a bus oh fuck, I don't have a bus. That was good. That was well timed. That was good. I'm mad. I was thinking of something.
Speaker 4:There's a point, are you hitting me or am I on the bus? I'd like you to actually hit me. Let's go.
Speaker 1:There's so many, oh my god. But no, I'm oh what I was going to say. You're talking about Predator 2 tie. I was like Prey had the greatest tie-in, because the fucking the gun was in Prey.
Speaker 4:The gun that the chief predator gives Captain Gibbs Harrigan in Predator 2.
Speaker 1:I watch him I'm like get the fuck out of here. That's the gun from Predator 2. I don't give a fuck. People say Predator 2 sucks. I'm like you people are full of shit. That movie's fucking fun as fuck. I don't care. You go to hell. The People are full of shit. That movie's fucking fun as fuck. I don't care. You go to hell. The Jamaicans the goddamn Jamaicans and their head cutting off. And there's a scene where no.
Speaker 4:I don't want to describe the scene. I can't watch that movie now thanks to Trump, and you know it. What?
Speaker 1:does Trump have to do with Predator 2? Patience, oh shit, fuck, god damn it. They're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs. Son of a bitch.
Speaker 4:But uh no, I was going to talk about the scene where it gives you the fucking scenes in there, where it's all bloody and they're they're sacrificing animals to the.
Speaker 1:Oh God, I'm never going to watch that movie. The same again.
Speaker 4:I told you that joke when it was on TV. My grandma randomly puts on a movies on the TV.
Speaker 2:I'm like I'll sit there. I used to do that joke when it was on TV.
Speaker 4:My grandma randomly puts on movies on the TV.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like how the fuck I'll sit there.
Speaker 4:I've been to your house for fucking you know dinner.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, where they're doing the podcast for Star Wars and it's in the background. That was perfect. I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 4:That was fucking perfect. I never told my grandma yeah, we're doing a podcast on Star Wars. Oh, you know what? Let's put this on you know that's just Desperate.
Speaker 1:Jay's told me she here it comes again. But Jay told me she has Harry Potter on a lot.
Speaker 4:She'll just put that on as background noise. First, I think her favorite is Prisoner of Azkaban.
Speaker 1:Oh, sirius Black, Can you imagine just having that that on in the fucking background just randomly hear fucking Harry Potter? Did you hear Avada, kedavra or Expelliarmus?
Speaker 4:Why do I gotta do the fucking shit? It's better than uh, Expelliarmus, Fuck. What was the second one called again?
Speaker 2:Chamber of Secrets. Chamber of.
Speaker 1:Secrets, yeah, my room.
Speaker 4:That's the chamber. There ain't no secrets in there.
Speaker 2:Not anymore.
Speaker 4:You've had somebody in there, oh shit. My dog knows she goes in there when I'm not home. No, she's the one To make sure there are no secrets. Poof Opens the door. What are you doing?
Speaker 1:Don't you be doing what I think you're doing in here? She has a sense for that shit. It's like dog Fuck.
Speaker 4:What I can just imagine his ass with the phone over his face, hand under covers, dog busts in the door. What are you doing, fuck you doing? Sadie, go. No, I want cookie.
Speaker 2:We did just see a Milk Bone commercial.
Speaker 1:Son of a bitch. I thought it was a movie. My stupid ass. They did that commercial so fucking well, I thought it was a movie. My stupid ass. They did that commercial so fucking.
Speaker 2:Well, I thought it was another dog movie here we go again Until you saw Milk Bone in three straight scenes.
Speaker 4:It's a Milk Bone commercial I was like, oh no, another dog movie. You go to the theater, guys Actually watch the fucking commercials and previews. Some of them are great.
Speaker 2:I mean. Nothing will ever be just a tie-dad. I'm sorry that was still the greatest Super Bowl commercial ever. What You've never seen the Tide ad in a Super Bowl commercial.
Speaker 4:A Tide has been ruined for me thanks to the Tide challenge. Oh God, Nothing will ever.
Speaker 1:Oh God.
Speaker 4:And no, I was not one of those people that, alright, I'm going to pop a pot in my mouth.
Speaker 1:The only stupid-ass challenge that I ever tried was that cinnamon one, and I'll never do that again.
Speaker 4:Why did I think he was going to be the one to say condom up the nose?
Speaker 2:I thought he was going to say no-nut November.
Speaker 4:Him no-nut November.
Speaker 1:That's impossible. I did the ice bucket challenge. I did that once.
Speaker 4:I have that on video. Yeah with me doing it With ALS. I did that once. I have that on video. Yeah with me doing it with the ALS. I did do it, but uh yeah that, that cinnamon challenge. You got JJ to do it.
Speaker 1:If you I'm not kidding you, jay if you do it, a whole spoonful of cinnamon, you feel like you're choking.
Speaker 3:I did choke.
Speaker 1:I've done it. I didn't expect. Oh fucked it shit. Fucking kid dared me to do it in school. You don't expect it, but you're like Jesus.
Speaker 4:I had to go to the goddamn nurse.
Speaker 1:And guess what? I?
Speaker 4:don't fucking like cinnamon anymore.
Speaker 2:Oh, I hate cinnamon. I've always hated it. Ryan loves rum chata or chata or chata.
Speaker 1:I can't. No, I can't. Random fact about me. Oh, jay would agree with me, because of cinnamon.
Speaker 4:The closest I come to actually liking cinnamon are cinnamon rolls.
Speaker 1:But that's got that fucking frosting on it. If somebody hands me like fireball liquor, get that away from me please. I will instantly gag.
Speaker 3:Giggity.
Speaker 4:Got the fluffer next to me, son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:Oh my god. Well, top tens. Alright, now top ten. This has been a Well. Top tens All right, no top ten. This has been a very fun. At least this has been a fun one. Matt said it was going to be a fun one.
Speaker 2:I said it was going to be a long one. I didn't say fun, I said it was going to be a long one. I'm long and and judging by I, can't see the timer anymore.
Speaker 4:Watch it cut the phone, does not do that.
Speaker 1:The phone don't show. Oh God, your phone is. God tier man. Oh, we're almost at two.
Speaker 4:Hell yeah, 60% battery Snapchat message. I have no clue who it's from, so sorry. Whoever the hell that is, it's probably your brother. No, I don't.
Speaker 3:Actually, I do have him on Snapchat, you're fucking great.
Speaker 1:I'm mad because he caught my little innuendo I made. He gave you a dirty look, I didn't give you a dirty look.
Speaker 4:I'm sad he didn't say anything about it.
Speaker 1:I said I'm long and fun. He's like what the fuck you?
Speaker 2:should expect those from me. She didn't want to get it up earlier. I hate you.
Speaker 4:I'm going home, do me a favor.
Speaker 1:Give him a sound effect. Hey, I ordered. I ordered Sprite, not clown juice.
Speaker 2:But you went to go see A clown in theaters.
Speaker 4:That clown.
Speaker 1:If he does not.
Speaker 4:Get a call from James Gunn To be the new Joker, I will be mad. Who Art? The guy who plays Art? David Howard Thornton. David Howard Thornton.
Speaker 1:David Howard Thornton. Oh, you're talking about James Gunn's DCU. Yes, yeah, I'd like that. I wouldn't mind that. Oh, random shit. My favorite thing about Art's when he breaks the serial killer slasher rules and pulls a gun out of his bag and just blows someone away with a pistol, not once, but twice.
Speaker 4:Pistol Pulled. That's three times Actually. Yeah, didn't he do it in the first movie? Yep, so one, two and three. He did it. No, he's fucking.
Speaker 1:she's beating him with a weapon and he's digging his bag. He thinks he's going to pull out a machete or he pulls out a Glock. Okay, first ever slasher to do that. He just broke through. I'm going to pull a gun.
Speaker 4:That's probably one of the reasons people fell in love with him. He fucking just pulled out a gun.
Speaker 1:No, I like when the girl's screaming hysterically and he's trying to get in, he takes his little horn in there.
Speaker 4:Stop it, please stop it.
Speaker 1:Okay, so in theme of Venom, but we ain't said the word Venom or Spider-Man in an hour probably. I think we need to start with Dean, the top ten Spider-Man characters. We didn't limit it to villains. We originally were going to do villains, but we were like characters, so good people, bad guys, whatever the fuck you want, that is related to Spider-Man.
Speaker 4:First, oh for a second there, I thought he had a Wolverine by his nuts. What?
Speaker 2:No, it's Bob Rosspool.
Speaker 1:This damn pillow just always becomes my little armrest All the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's hiding something.
Speaker 1:I'm not that happy.
Speaker 2:You were earlier. Why'd you have to?
Speaker 4:look down at it to make sure I don't have to.
Speaker 1:I just was like what the fuck? But I'm going to rattle off my honorable mentions quick, just so we can get an idea. The other guys can get an idea. Who is not on my list?
Speaker 2:Why'd you open it up over here?
Speaker 1:Now we got that sound effect anyway, son of a bitch. I like adding that to it.
Speaker 4:Should I crinkle the chip egg too? Yeah, we're human beings. We eat and drink. We're human beings, but this guy likes sausage, okay quick rundown.
Speaker 1:I just say, okay, that's it, that's it. I'm say okay, yes, you did, yes you did. I'm just too busy going into the list. Pepperoni, pepperoni, thank you. Pepperoni and sausage pizza Son of a bitch, I'm just making it worse. I'm admitting it in a way, he loves the beef.
Speaker 3:Where's the beef?
Speaker 2:You literally put a trap hole right in front of him and watched him walk in.
Speaker 1:That's literally what you just did. I'm rolling that one. I naturally roll those that one I naturally just roll those sometimes. There I go.
Speaker 2:You gave him Spider-Man on his phone.
Speaker 1:I said this I'm in trouble I am. I'm special. If someone's gonna say special ed or disagree with me, you asshole. But I'm special in a way where, as intelligent as I am and no offense to these people I love them dearly. But I also a little bit have mental retardation at the same time as being intelligent. So I'm different. You're not alone.
Speaker 4:You're not. I think the only one in this podcast who does not have that is Matt, which is the reason he's not joining in on this, except for fucking enjoying our retardation. Look at these two stupid fucks. I wouldn't even be.
Speaker 1:He's not joining in on this, except for fucking enjoying our retardation. Look at these two stupid fucks. I wouldn't even be surprised. I'd take a test and be like Dean, you are 1% on the autism spectrum. I wouldn't even be surprised. I'm like what Fuck you, what I'm down with the ism? James is admitting it too. He said right now, I probably got with autism. James is admitting it too. He said right on, I probably got autism somewhere.
Speaker 4:I already know I should be diagnosed with ADHD, but dang never going to a doctor for that I still say your sister's autistic. You agree, I guess she's got some. No, she's got something else. What the fuck else?
Speaker 1:is there Shit?
Speaker 3:I don't even fucking know.
Speaker 2:Okay, number 10.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 1:I want to rattle off these honorable mentions real quick, that way we can see if I'm sharing any. Rhino, honorable mention. Scorpion, honorable mention. Spider-woman, jessica Drew, honorable mention. I had about six of them, because these are all ones that were consideration for 10 Miles Morales almost was 10 honorable mention. Mayday Parker honorable mention. I also knew Jay would put her on there. She's pretty high on, would be high on my ever since her story came out I was like I'm gonna leave her off you know when pirating was like high on the rise?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I had to read every single one of her comics and it was on the internet.
Speaker 1:Yep, okay, silk is my last honorable mention.
Speaker 4:And I fell in love with it, silk is my last honorable mention.
Speaker 1:Okay, now number Like all of those could.
Speaker 4:This is that sausage joke got me, for some reason.
Speaker 1:This is Spider-Man, we don't know how much I love. Spider-man. It was hard Number 10. That wasn't even intending for that one.
Speaker 2:No, but the pepperoni was, oh shit, spicy.
Speaker 1:Jay's going to laugh. Number 10 is a borderline a B villain. But recently number 10, I got shocker. It's all thanks to Spider-Man 2. Borderline a.
Speaker 4:B villain, but recently is just number 10. I got Shocker. It's all thanks to Spider-Man. 2. Took on Kraven and damn near beat him Because he fought with tenacity. Spider-man 2. The only villain that Shocker went up against in that game, and he gave respect to Kraven.
Speaker 1:Because Kraven kind of killed Scorpion, he killed Electro, he's killed all these villains easily. Then you listen to the tape and he's like but this one, the Shocker, he wasn't strong but he fought with tenacity because he was trying to survive. And I'm like Kraven just hyped up Shocker, I'm done. Shocker, man, shocker, don't have a pop yet.
Speaker 4:He never left that alone To this day.
Speaker 1:He would still bring it up. I like Shocker's design. I like his gauntlet, shocker's cool. I wish Shocker did it.
Speaker 4:Are you actually in love with the yellow spandex? I just like that.
Speaker 1:He looks like a pineapple. This dude's basically a pineapple.
Speaker 2:Of course he's not under the sea.
Speaker 4:If I see that pop on your porch, I know what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1:Oh God, but funny thing, people forget because he never wore a mask. But Shocker was in the Homecoming. He was Bokeem Woodbine, herman Schultz and the other guy who was Shocker for a bit was in there. People forget that because he didn't wear the hood, he didn't wear his mask.
Speaker 4:He did have a sweater similar to it.
Speaker 1:He had his pineapple sweater, but he didn't have the mask. But yeah, shocker, shocker's a surprising one, but I love Shocker, matt. What the he's got it written down. I wonder what happened.
Speaker 2:I didn't feel right not starting the list without this guy, ben Barker.
Speaker 3:Uncle Ben.
Speaker 4:He didn't die this time. He made the list.
Speaker 1:Well, he's on every villain's list when there's a new reboot. Oh, Uncle Ben's back on the hit list. It's because of the new reboot.
Speaker 4:No, no, that turned into Aunt May in the MCU, oh fuck.
Speaker 1:I guess what.
Speaker 4:Green Goblin did it.
Speaker 1:He wanted to show him. He just wanted to teach him a lesson You'll learn someday. He said it so nonchalantly Fucking love, willem Dafoe.
Speaker 4:I still love he pulled off the same thing. When he wasn't Goblin he had perfect teeth, but when he was Goblin he had his teeth.
Speaker 1:He only came back to beat up Tom Holland. That's a rumor.
Speaker 4:It's truth. I want to beat up the new kid man comes.
Speaker 1:Man's a great classic villain in his own universe, comes to a whole new universe and becomes a classic villain again.
Speaker 2:I like how we went off of Ben Parker into Green Goblin tangent.
Speaker 4:I don't even have him on his list so I don't know how the hell that happened. I have to pick one uh on his list, so I don't know how the hell that happened.
Speaker 2:What's the first name you're going to say, sir I?
Speaker 4:have to pick one. Chameleon hey, I actually do really like his character.
Speaker 1:He's going to be in. Kraven the fact that he was actually one of the first Spider-Man villains. He was the first main villain.
Speaker 4:And doesn't get enough credit for it. He does not come back for anything ever since he's been tied into Kraven.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that's his cousin Dimitri.
Speaker 4:Kraven takes more cred over Chameleon does. However, we did sort of get DLC form in Spider-Man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're hunting and you're trying to find him.
Speaker 4:So that was kind of nice. That was a of nice, I'm hoping and this is a very thin thread that he does Don his abilities in the Kraven movie, but I'm probably not going to get it at all Curious about it. I'm curious about what they do. He's in the movie. All he has to do is have the white mask with the changing facial features.
Speaker 1:He's the one.
Speaker 4:Kraven's talking to at the restaurant.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whatever it is. Yeah, that's Dimitri Craven's talking to a facial features.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm just going to continue to call him Blondie, because I don't think they ever really name him.
Speaker 1:No, in the cast is Dimitri, is it?
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, doesn't get enough credit, oh no, oh no. In fact, he's underutilized.
Speaker 1:Very true. Very true.
Speaker 4:Very true. Number nine very true very true, very true, number nine my number nine is lizard son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:All right, dr cotter's, not mine too. Lizard is one of my favorite people. I like reptiles, always been a favorite villain, and I love this Dr Cotter's story. He's not inherently bad, he's just. He's a scientist that makes a mistake and if and he's got a family dynamic with Billy and his wife. That's the one thing Amazing Spider-Man did wrong, and I like Lizard. They didn't put Billy in there. Where was Billy? Without Billy, you lose Lizard's whole character. But I love Lizard. Lizard was awful as shit in the 90s show because I loved his design in the 90s show.
Speaker 4:They had him down, his whole entire character, every character in that show was great and I liked Reese Iphans as Lizard in Amazing Spider.
Speaker 1:I did like it. I don't want to nitpick it. I did like it. But one thing that threw me off a little bit even. But one thing that threw me off a little bit, even though that was his original look he had the humanoid face. He didn't have the snout. I kind of like snout lizard more. He didn't have the snout but human face, kind of his original lizard. They didn't give him a snout until later it was like the 90s they didn't start giving him a snout. They made him more ferocious looking.
Speaker 2:But, yes.
Speaker 1:I like Lizard. I figured Lizard would be one that'd be in common. I was like I think everyone would have Lizard, Lizard's popular.
Speaker 4:He made the list, but he's not numbered. None of these are numbered. Oh Lizard.
Speaker 1:That's it. I like Lizard's character. He's got sympathy. I like the family angle. He's like are you done? Yet I always think of one more thing to say I followed up Ben Parker with Aunt May.
Speaker 2:What the fuck.
Speaker 1:He has Aunt May above Ben.
Speaker 4:Who else are you going to kill off?
Speaker 2:It depends on the story if she dies.
Speaker 4:No, we literally have an entire story that nobody really likes that they made a sequel to, thanks to her Yep. I believe his name is Edward Smythe.
Speaker 1:Alistair Smythe.
Speaker 4:Alistair Smythe.
Speaker 1:Spider Slayers. Yes, the guy who made the Spider Slayers.
Speaker 4:Yes, I actually enjoyed his character when it came to the 90s cartoon. Yep, I would not know about him at all if it was not for the cartoon. Very true.
Speaker 1:Very true, because he don't show up that much.
Speaker 4:He has a smaller part.
Speaker 1:He has smaller arcs in the comics In the comics Yep, but in the cartoon he was a big kingpin underling Foreshadow.
Speaker 4:Fuck off, fuck off.
Speaker 1:Foreshadow. No, I like that one. He casts a big shadow. I like that one. Of course he doesn't, vincent.
Speaker 4:Pianfa Shut up, especially his mutation in the show. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, that's a good one, that's a good one, I like that.
Speaker 3:I like that one. That was a good choice.
Speaker 4:Wasn't on the list but because you mentioned the show.
Speaker 1:What works that way? I know you You're going to try to avoid a lot of the ones I say.
Speaker 4:And we do it so we can talk about other things. Well, if I showed you my list, yeah, okay, it'd be a thing. Alrighty, that was my number nine.
Speaker 2:Oh, you didn't have okay Eight Mine was Aunt.
Speaker 4:May. Yeah, he's just listing off the tombstones at this point. Oh God, you motherfucker.
Speaker 1:My number eight is Max Dillon Electro. Electro is always one of Spidey's most powerful villains. He fights on a regular basis.
Speaker 4:And then they made him black.
Speaker 1:I had no issue with it no.
Speaker 4:no, that's not even where I was going with that.
Speaker 1:Oh Spot, oh no, way Home. Yep, you do stuff for people. You're a good kid. I liked it. I just thought you'd be black JB. Fuck Andrew. Oh no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:I'm sorry. I'm sorry, he said it in the nicest way possible, but he wasn't wrong. It's like you know. I'm sorry, I gave you that conception.
Speaker 1:Electro's always been fun. He's in fun stories and he's got a daughter. He's a core member of Sinister Six.
Speaker 4:What the fuck is her name? Something Dylan. I only know the last name because they actually kept that she ain't been seen in a while, maxine Dylan, or is that the fucking alternate universe one, oh god, like Doc Ock, doctress.
Speaker 1:Ock or whatever the fuck. Oh yeah, that shit. Lecturer's always just been funny. He's snarky. He's the biggest dickhead Spider-Man fights. He has always just been funny. He's snarky, he's got the most. He's the biggest dickhead Spider-Man fights. He's always just a smart-ass shit-talker. It's funny. It's always entertaining their banter back and forth. But yes, electro, excuse me.
Speaker 4:Electro yeah, I think Electro's the only one that meets him back and forth when it comes to quips. Yeah, without even intending it, alright, who else is getting fucking coughed?
Speaker 2:This guy's died quite a bit in several variations Alexei Mikhailovich Sitsovich.
Speaker 1:Rhino.
Speaker 2:He's technically died in several mythoses.
Speaker 1:Finally getting his time to shine in Kraven not that fucking amazing Spider-Man.
Speaker 2:I'm still gonna hate his look. I'm still gonna hate it you're still prepared to hate he's a goddamn unicorn what the horn is at his forehead.
Speaker 4:You're telling me he has to have two horns for you to fucking say anything. No, I prefer actually where it is. If you're gonna tag on the nose, yes, that actually where it is. If you're going to have it On the nose, yes, that's not a little on the nose for you?
Speaker 2:If you're going to mutate into the rhino, put the horn in the right spot, but that's not where it ever was.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because he's wearing a rhino suit. That would never have translated. We witnessed this in Spider-Man, the amazing Spider-Man.
Speaker 1:Please don't mention that fucking mech. I was so excited I'm like oh no, and that was still more accurate to an actual rhino than anything else. Motherfuckers don't know where to put their horn. I know where to, oh my god.
Speaker 2:You set that up yourself, I set that up myself.
Speaker 1:I did right, I was planning it. Since you said horn, oh, I got an opportunity here.
Speaker 4:He knows where to put his horn but not the horniness. Oh, he knows what to do with that too. He knows what to do with it, but never when to use it Okay. Next On me, it's on me.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:That's not good. Ah, fuck it Max Modell. I've grown to like his character and it mostly was thanks to the cartoon. What was it Ultimate, not Ultimate Spider-Man? Was it Ultimate Spider-Man? I believe the one that aired on Disney? I?
Speaker 1:believe, I believe, I believe, I think so.
Speaker 4:Do not start singing Shrek songs. We already did with Hallelujah. I know.
Speaker 1:Small break, is it?
Speaker 4:Ultimate Spider-Man. He got his shine in the comics Thanks to what was it? Doc Ock?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4:But he became another father figure, mentor type thing towards Peter. And I like those types of characters for some reason.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, very good, good, good, good, good Good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 4:So there we are.
Speaker 1:That was number 8 for me, or number?
Speaker 4:9?.
Speaker 1:That was 8. I said Electro, I'm on 7. I'm going to 7.
Speaker 4:You're going to 7.
Speaker 1:I'm going to 7. My number 7 is Ben Reilly, one of the clones.
Speaker 4:So a Parker did make your list.
Speaker 1:Technically, technically.
Speaker 4:Now, how about this, if you?
Speaker 1:want to be fucking technical. What?
Speaker 4:Is he the original Parker or not?
Speaker 1:Oh Jesus, I like Ben's story because they've recently been. They bring him back recently and he's Chasm now and I love his fucking look. His look is the most bad.
Speaker 1:I have not read any of that One of the most badass looks I've seen for a Spidey in a while. It's very Carnage. Kazem's suit is great, but they made him kind of off his rocker again. He's trying to find himself. I like that. They gave Ben this story arc where he's Peter but he wants to differentiate himself from Peter now. He doesn't want to be Peter, he. He wants to differentiate himself from Peter now because he don't want to be Peter. He wants to be his own person. And they have a whole story arc with him trying to find himself and I like that they're trying to make him give him his own identity.
Speaker 4:Do I want to know why you're chuckling over there? Oh, and I'll wait until the instant.
Speaker 1:He has actually no Chasm's suit and he has another one of my favorites too.
Speaker 4:It's the original jackal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's another one of my favorite suits.
Speaker 4:When we did the Clone Wars part.
Speaker 1:Eight, I don't really know anymore. He's got Ben, he's got Candy, he's got a bunch of clones.
Speaker 4:No, I'm talking about when Ben was the jackal. That whole storyline I actually did like it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that was cool. What the fuck was that called?
Speaker 4:again, I'm trying to remember. It wasn't a Clone War. They actually gave it a name and it was actually a good arc, right up until the point where everybody started melting again. Oh jeez, no, seriously, the clones started melting. They took that right out of the 90's.
Speaker 1:Spider-Man show, where Mary Jane and everybody started melting, oh no. Oh God I almost thought you had that one memorized. Oh okay, I had to see an image of it. Yeah, I remember that. I remember that now. I remember that now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I did it. Where he's the jackal. He's got the badass fucking Anubis mask. Yeah, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 1:I did where he's the jackal, he's got the badass, he's got the anubis mask. Yeah, I did it. God, you remember shit from a long ass. That's how long, how long it spends in fred cop that's 2021, I think I'm like bro, that's years ago, that shit.
Speaker 4:But no, I liked it I it's one of the.
Speaker 3:Now he's that.
Speaker 1:He's fucking great that's his new there. That's that's what he looks like now, and I love that look.
Speaker 4:Well, how about when he was a part of Beyond, oh yeah, where he took over as Spider-Man? How about that? Should bring that suit up.
Speaker 1:That was alright. That was alright. But, like I said, it's Scarlet Spider with the hoodie and that one. Okay enough, ben.
Speaker 2:Reilly, no, my phone notified me that a pizzeria in Stoughton, Wisconsin, accidentally contaminated its pizza and got several of its customers high Mushrooms. No THC was somehow put in the pizza. Leafy greens, nah, it's like thanks phone for that information, number seven. Yes, dr Connors.
Speaker 4:Lizard, the lizard.
Speaker 2:Dr Connors. Lizard the lizard, the lizard, dr Cutcon, as Dean said, one of my favorite villains from the show. Tv show.
Speaker 1:Yep, he was always around, he always came back All right.
Speaker 4:Nothing more to say Nope, nope.
Speaker 1:I'm right back. Hey, I babbled her out already.
Speaker 4:You and me and our grounded villains. You're gonna love this one, hammerhead.
Speaker 1:That's a good one. He was on my short list. I was like I like.
Speaker 4:Hammerhead. He has many different versions of himself. In every iteration he's brought up, yeah, but one of the better versions Is him from the 90s yeah TV show when he's got that just Boss gangster. Look, yeah, and he's Okay. He's about the size of JJ.
Speaker 1:He's just Al Capone. Yeah, he even talks with. I'm going to rough him up. I'm going to rough him up. Yeah, he's a total mobster. He's great. He's great though.
Speaker 4:Talks out of the side of his mouth.
Speaker 1:He didn't make my list but, speaking of uh of Hammerhead, since he's been I.
Speaker 4:I wanted him to actually show up in the new Spider-Man uh yeah movie as like maybe a side villain or a quick you know, I can't even say the word quickie around.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, you know, you know, really, his only power is he's got a metal plate in his head and he had fucking gangster he is, he headbutts.
Speaker 4:He headbutts Base, base level, which will lead me into a Honorable mention, because I do love her, and it leads into a bigger organization Silver Sable.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Silver Sable.
Speaker 4:So I like those groups and the gangsters and stuff that Spider-Man actually goes up against Recently this is the main Spider-Man because it's gotten way better Recently.
Speaker 1:Tombstone's been climbing up my list because Tombstone's been the main villain in the main.
Speaker 3:Spider-Man.
Speaker 1:Tombstone's been the main villain in the newer not normal line and I've been liking it, so Tombstone's been climbing up my list.
Speaker 4:No Ultimate Spider-Man King. People In the group, fuck my brain.
Speaker 2:No Ultimate.
Speaker 4:Spider-Man King Pippa. What In the group? Fuck my brain, huh. What do you? You got some THC going through you right now.
Speaker 2:No, I was like I don't even think we said any. I mean sure, technically. What do you want on your tombstone?
Speaker 4:That's your fault for having all dead people on your list.
Speaker 1:My god, the shit he catches sometimes and correlates pretty quick.
Speaker 2:It's kind of funny. Well, it didn't help with. The last thing I just read was pizza.
Speaker 1:Tombstone, oh my.
Speaker 2:God.
Speaker 1:I had a tombstone for lunch the other day. I didn't get high, though.
Speaker 4:This was a separate pizza place. It wasn't tombstone itself. Oh boy we high. You know, I cannot believe there is not a goddamn pizza place in California or any other place where it's legal that has that for sale.
Speaker 2:I mean just ask California Pizza Kitchen. That's a big brand in California.
Speaker 4:I'm not giving them my ideas.
Speaker 2:They get the money?
Speaker 4:I don't, I know damn well California. No, actually there was one California and that did listen to us at one point.
Speaker 2:I think we're on six.
Speaker 1:Yes, I would be going to six. Was it me? Yep, who did you say? I said Hammerhead. Okay.
Speaker 4:And then you brought up because of the comics.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, number six. Okay, another one. I'm pretty sure everyone expected to be on mine somewhere Sergei Kravenov. Kraven's a hunter.
Speaker 4:Yep, don't need to put him on there now. I'm higher.
Speaker 1:God damn you. You did that on purpose, son of a bitch.
Speaker 2:Because I was hot.
Speaker 4:Because I was hot.
Speaker 1:Because I was hot.
Speaker 4:Did you clean your kitchen?
Speaker 1:Kraven is just one of the most manly gusto villains there is. The man just depending on what iteration he takes potions to have animal powers or he does voodoo shit.
Speaker 2:Let's not forget the radioactive lions.
Speaker 1:The radioactive fucking lions.
Speaker 4:You're not gonna let that movie, live it down. If that's actually what it is, yep. His whole point is it's gonna be voodoo, a voodoo witch is going to bring him back to life.
Speaker 1:Calypso is in the movie, but uh.
Speaker 2:Every time you shake your hand, your watch goes off.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it does. It's motion sense. So all I have to do is this for it to show up.
Speaker 2:So next time you go to a movie with him and it has the watch, you have to tie his hand to him. I have to turn it off his hand to him.
Speaker 4:I have to turn it off.
Speaker 2:It just went off again. I know because I moved, but in the movie. If it's going off in the movie, he's going to have to.
Speaker 4:I don't think it wasn't a problem with him in the movie. That's what he said. No, right here because I'm going like this, but you said it was going off during the movie.
Speaker 1:It was. I kept seeing it because he kept moving it. It because he kept moving his hip it kept lighting up, see, because I see shit out of the corner of my eye.
Speaker 4:I'm getting messages, dean. It's from people and it's not you.
Speaker 1:You're busy, dean time. That's your fault. You started that. But no, goddamn, I'm trying to talk about Kraven, I'm not talking about that. Damn watch. It's off of TikTok. Goddamn, he's got. He's got. He's got the manly gusto. He, he hunts. He's looking like manly men. Manly men are great he's in leopard print in leopard. I like his power, set he the Russian accent too. I am Sergei Kravenov and I hunt you spider he's got the Russian.
Speaker 4:How would you have felt if they actually made him Serbian? I'd have been like whoa.
Speaker 1:He's a Russian. That's close, and that's pretty close. God, I'm going Russian there for a second.
Speaker 2:But Spider-Man has two major Russian villains.
Speaker 1:Alexis Itsevich but Kraven.
Speaker 4:Actually, a lot of his villains are ethnic Mikhailovich and Nikolovich.
Speaker 1:Those might be Serbs, I'm not going to lie to you. But uh, but uh. And he's a part of one of Spider-Man's greatest stories. Kraven's Last Hunt is one of the greatest comic book stories ever. And Kraven that Kraven is actually dead. The Kraven now in current comics is his son. The original Kraven is dead still.
Speaker 4:I completely forgot about that.
Speaker 1:Yep, he achieved his hunt.
Speaker 4:Kraven's Last Hunt, he dies. In that one he commits suicide. Oh yeah, didn't they attempt to do that story in Spider-Man 2? Spider-man 2? The game.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, craven's.
Speaker 4:Last Hunt.
Speaker 1:In a way it was Craven's Last Hunt, but Spider-Man 2, when he goes out to Venom because he's sick, he's dying, he wants to go out on a hunt, fucking Cravenven up. I pray that that movie turns out to be at least watchable, because I love Aaron Taylor Johnson. I think he's going to do great in the role why you died. Please, sony, are you bringing a fucking bullet train?
Speaker 4:Yeah, you dieseled.
Speaker 1:God damn you and the fucking diesels. That movie was a fucking fake out we had no gas. I love Kraven.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you love that, because you might hate me after this one. I don't know if I'm stealing this one from you early or not. Black Cat.
Speaker 1:Very early.
Speaker 2:I figured Very early. I figured as much. I'll save Dean for the special, knowing it's on his list All right.
Speaker 4:How about this one, yuri Watanabe?
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, that's a good one, okay.
Speaker 4:I like the love that they're actually giving her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, the games and shit. Yeah, it took me a second. Oh yeah, yuri, for the games. Okay, yeah, good one.
Speaker 4:I was not expecting that. I enjoyed it, though, because how would you see a cop seeing all this shit coming around her and all of a sudden, she ends up becoming a vigilante? Right Because of interacting with a vigilante. That would be something, but then getting shit from the vigilante on how she's vigilanting. That is a fucking sentence to say out loud a vigilante getting shit on her vigilante. I'm still waiting for the carnage DLC of Spider-Man 2.
Speaker 1:I'm still waiting for that where is the carnage? We're not getting a spiral car DLC well, who's the main villain of Spider-Man 3 for the game that's gonna have Carnage or Goblin, because they're setting them both up or they're both in it. It's gonna be.
Speaker 2:Goblin.
Speaker 4:The main, one's gonna be Goblin. The side one's gonna be Carnage.
Speaker 2:Okay, Would you do Carnage technically because of in the? Because you're getting what's his name's video game first, right Before you get Spider-Man 3? I think that's how they worded it. Is that you're getting Miles Miles 2 before you get.
Speaker 4:Maybe I didn't know we were getting Miles 2. I didn't even know we were getting Miles 2.
Speaker 2:I think that's what they said I thought they were alright.
Speaker 4:we gave him in Spider-Man 2, you're good, we don't need to do a Well.
Speaker 1:most people had Carnage being DLC, because Goblin is set up for 3.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's Goblin for 3.
Speaker 4:I'm still waiting on the Wolverine game.
Speaker 2:We're waiting on several things.
Speaker 1:Is there a Blade game too in the works.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there's supposed to be. Yeah, oh, that might be hurting. Basically, you want to know what hurt a lot of these games and a lot of these games, and I don't know why, because I played the game and actually enjoyed it was what the fuck is the name of the game, though.
Speaker 2:You've given us no context, no I have not, no, I have not Magic. The one with everybody in it.
Speaker 4:Yes, it's a card strategy game instead. Of a fighting Snap.
Speaker 2:No, the Marvel, the one where you get to play as the characters, and it's still the strategy game instead of a fighting. No, the Marvel, the one where you get to play as the characters, and it's still the magic ghost. Oh God, morb in time.
Speaker 4:Morbius. Morbius was in there as DLC.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you get all the characters. It's basically Marvel versus Capcom, just because of the card Ultimate. Alliance.
Speaker 1:No, matt's going to find it. I'm like Shit.
Speaker 4:It has to do with the dark team Midnight Suns. Midnight Suns. It was actually a very good story. The fighting elements, though, took away from it Because it was turn-based. Oh God, that's a hard sell for him. It's got a card turn-based what Fuck that? But they nailed every character that was in that game. Turn base won't kill it, but it's like oh no, this won't kill you. You gotta collect cards, you gotta build your deck, oh boy. Well, you don't necessarily have to build your deck, because you can use the same deck they give you from the beginning throughout the entire game, because it's not a hard game. You level up your character as you fight.
Speaker 3:Yep yep.
Speaker 4:And you have the option of replaying levels or side missions to continue leveling up and reach your max level Yep.
Speaker 2:I have concerns about the Captain America Black Panther game that's coming out. That's all right.
Speaker 4:Oh God, yeah, that's a thing. It still doesn't make sense to me. It still looks cool, sort of, but out that's all right. Oh God, yeah, that's a thing.
Speaker 2:It still doesn't make sense to me. Still looks cool sort of, but whatever, it's a weird concept to be going with. But I think we're on number five.
Speaker 4:Yes, we are Number five. You say that after Black Panther. All right, sorry, I went canned either. Oh God, kids Next Door, number 5. Oh shit, okay, do you not know the reference? Oh God, battle Ready Armor Bra. The fact that's the one thing he remembers from Kids Next Door is bra. Battle Ready Armor, that's what it was yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh God, and them creepy-ass kids that never came apart, the creepy-ass kids from Down the Lane.
Speaker 2:I'm like you remember the names but you don't. No, I got the reference. I was just questioning the reference. I knew what the reference was.
Speaker 1:I thought people was talking shit when they were telling me number four's real name is Wallaby Beatles. I'm like the fuck, he's Australian. Wallaby Wallaby.
Speaker 2:I the fuck. He's australian wallaby wallaby.
Speaker 4:I know that but it's like fuck nigel uno. Oh my god, the kid with cancer. Fuck you. No one's gonna let him live that down. No, no, he lost his hair on a mission and decided I'm gonna stay this way I know, but it's still a funny joke and then his father turning out to be the best kids next door operative, and then father being his uncle Father. Well, there's a grandfather too Grandfather, and he was the ultimate villain Us kids watching that show must have been like our parents are evil.
Speaker 1:They're plotting against us.
Speaker 4:That show might be the reason why I don't like going to the dentist. I can't trust him. Number five sir, Sorry, I threw you off a lot.
Speaker 1:Who did you save for six?
Speaker 2:Yuri Watanabe Okay. We tangented off of.
Speaker 1:That's how bad that tangent was I lost complete track of everything. Yes, okay, because I said Craven Okay.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Number five yeah, I know.
Speaker 4:I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Number five how far does the rabbit hole go?
Speaker 2:Further than you think. If they chase the rabbit, they don't mean the tail.
Speaker 4:No, we chase the tail. You know us better than that. Don't put the tail in front of our face if you don't want us to chase it so fuzzy. This is five rabbits. Five has Give me some tape. This ain't gonna work, oh God, five has Give me some tape. This ain't gonna work. Oh my God. Say your number five please.
Speaker 1:Five has recently been brought to life amazingly by Jake Gyllenhaal. Amazing Spider-Man Mysterio.
Speaker 4:Damn it. He was higher on my list, and you know why.
Speaker 2:And you just had to put amazing in there.
Speaker 1:Mysterio has always been one of my favorite villains Because I like his illusion stuff and I was so happy. Why, what?
Speaker 4:I had an NSYNC moment.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I'm saving that for tomorrow.
Speaker 1:I was just. I was so happy that fucking Jake Gyllenhaal did that role so well.
Speaker 2:I did not hurt Jake. Fuck you brain. I'm tired. Go on continue and they kept.
Speaker 1:They kept the fucking fishbowl. That was the best thing. Fishbowl's not gonna work in movies.
Speaker 4:No, no and he had a great design Bowl. That was the best thing Fargo did. Fish Bowl's not gonna work in movies, no.
Speaker 1:And he had a great design. And that first illusion sequence is still one of my favorite sequences in all of the MCU. That was phenomenal. Is that his molten man? That was phenomenal.
Speaker 2:No no.
Speaker 1:The first illusion, where he's in the snow globe and all the Mysterios are marching. He's monologuing the whole time from far from home. The first illusion oh, okay, yeah, and he gets hit by the train at the end. That was phenomenal. Matt knows what I'm talking about. That was phenomenal, that illusion.
Speaker 4:I thought you were talking about him fighting the.
Speaker 2:When you said the first illusion, technically everything he fought was an illusion.
Speaker 1:Illusion sequence.
Speaker 4:I guess, yeah. Yeah, that's where you got me, where you see the zombie Iron man too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's where you got us. It's like when you said it, it didn't trigger our brain.
Speaker 1:No, but that is one of my favorite scenes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was a very good scene.
Speaker 1:My brain actually went sequential when it came to that and the funny thing was, far From Home was probably if I had to pick the weakest of the three, but Mysterio was still.
Speaker 4:Oh, come on, you love Spider-Monkey.
Speaker 1:Oh, Jesus Christ, I like when fucking Peter's trying to change and they catch him with the lady in the fucking. He's like what the fuck going on in here?
Speaker 4:It's not what you think it is Not what you think. You're asked what I answered. It's what you think it is.
Speaker 1:Mysterio's always been cool. He's always been kind of a laugh villain. But and again, I don't mind that they changed his origin a little bit in Far From Home they just like here. Let's connect them to Stark Barf. Yep, barf, oh yes.
Speaker 4:His entire reason for being. He named my invention Barf.
Speaker 1:Mysterio.
Speaker 4:I couldn't take that lying down Quentin Beck Last action in a movie lying down and dies.
Speaker 2:This will be the only one I steal from Jay, because Craven's already been said. Dr Otto Octavius, number five. I told you there were three.
Speaker 4:He stole the first one. I have a big enough list. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:You're compensating for something, oh.
Speaker 4:I just happened to like that many Spider-Man characters. He could have a beer lit. Fuck, just nailing a coffin right there I should be on your list at the bottom of it. Yeah, six feet under already. Uh, uh said weighing off of his flash thompson, I love him in the comics. I love him in some of the uh cartoons. Yeah, do not like them in the mcu?
Speaker 1:I don't. That was horribly missed. I have nothing against tony with nothing against the actor but that was bad casting.
Speaker 4:That's not flash thompson it's not even the casting. It's how they write him. They got the Spidey fanboy down, but that was supposed to be a private thing, I don't care.
Speaker 1:My favorite Flash is still the one from the original Spider-Man. Flash was just an accident. It was just an accident, Flash, and he punches him. I don't want to fight you, Flash. You won't want to fight me neither.
Speaker 2:And that's fucking.
Speaker 1:Joe, fucking Joe Manganiello, now cast, as You're not talking Deathstroke, that's just dead. Oh God, I know it too. What the fuck, what was it?
Speaker 2:I am not remembering what you're trying to reference. No, I know what.
Speaker 4:it is the only thing that's coming to mind is Magic Mike, and it's not there. Oh God, he's in that too.
Speaker 1:I think he played Big Dick Ricky. He did. I fucking know.
Speaker 2:That's Joe Manganiello. I know Big Dick, ricky, are you talking something recent? Yeah, I'm saying he just got cast into something that I know Dean likes. What the fuck? I'm pissed. No, no, don't look, that's cheating. How is it cheating? Because he'll find it easy what?
Speaker 4:the fuck, not if he types in Big Dicky.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to type in Big Dick, ricky, I'm going to get all sorts of shit. I don't want Imagine Google Images on that.
Speaker 4:Just a motherfucker. No, because you're going to be comparing sizes anyway. I probably would.
Speaker 2:I'm sure Sophia wasn't complaining. Oh my god, he was married to Sofia Figueroa.
Speaker 4:Oh, I thought you were giving him a clue.
Speaker 1:No, oh God, I'm going to kick myself. I'm going to kick myself.
Speaker 2:I want to see you kick yourself your brain's so far down the rabbit hole you're not going to remember.
Speaker 1:What is it? Crocodile.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, he was cast as Crocodile for the one-piece live animation.
Speaker 1:Yes, fuck you. Yes, that's what it was. It was Crocodile, that shit had me in it.
Speaker 4:Neither one of us. Yes, no, I knew it, oh yes he was yes he was and. I kind of liked it.
Speaker 2:We were so far down that fucking rabbit hole no, you sent me down a rabbit hole so far today that I you put yourself down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 1:I love it because I actually really I dug the hole.
Speaker 4:Let's not lie.
Speaker 1:I dug that hole Because I actually really enjoyed the One Piece live action. I enjoyed it a lot so I was really excited. I'm like Joe mentioned it as Crocodile.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll take it, it's all coming together. I think I may have just created the biggest bit in my brain. Wait till you see my next one. Oh no, who died now. I don't know if this guy's died.
Speaker 4:Everyone you've said so far has died.
Speaker 2:Including Doc.
Speaker 1:Ock yes.
Speaker 4:Doc Ock's died. How do you think we got Superior Spider-Man?
Speaker 1:You're the Superior Spider-Man in his consciousness. His body died.
Speaker 4:He put his consciousness in Peter Parker's body. We just did your four right, no five, he's on four.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm on four. I just I did Mysterio, I did Mysterio, then who did? Then you did, I did Doc.
Speaker 2:Ock, and you just did.
Speaker 4:Flash Thompson. And I didn't even say Agent Venom, I just said Flash Thompson. Alright number four Because he doesn't always stay as Agent Venom.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised he has not been said yet. But number four is Stormin' Norman himself. Stormin' Osborn the Green.
Speaker 4:Goblin, I didn't have any Osborn on my list. Any Osborne?
Speaker 1:What about those illegitimate children? With Gwen, I said any.
Speaker 3:I said any.
Speaker 1:It's Norman. Norman is just the thorn in Peter's side constantly and it's fucking great.
Speaker 3:He's just a dick, he's like well, goblin's a dick, not Norman, even when he's a good guy.
Speaker 4:Currently Norman's a good guy again. Is he still Golden Goblin?
Speaker 1:No, yes he is. The Goblin kind of became a spirit, a possession spirit.
Speaker 3:Oh, for fuck's sake, the weird ones.
Speaker 1:Kraven was involved with this spear that would kill your sins and shit and the sins of the goblin.
Speaker 4:So Goblin was such an evil entity, he ended up turning into a demon.
Speaker 1:Kind of I guess that's a simple way to put it the sins of Norman actually went to Peter for a while. I don't know if you've seen the image of Peter looking like the goblin?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do.
Speaker 4:They went to Peter for a while and he became Goblin Spider. I had to give I had you give me the.
Speaker 1:I think you messaged me like what the?
Speaker 4:fuck is this? I had to have you give me the synopsis of like what is this?
Speaker 1:Please explain why does?
Speaker 4:Peter, look like Goblin oh okay, because I had to wonder when it was over Same thing with the whole Paul arc.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 4:Well, Later Peter stabbed Norman in the sins kind of of the Goblin If you ever made a list of most hated characters he's up there.
Speaker 1:Yep, paul See stabbed Norman in the sins of Goblin, kind of dissipated. So Goblin is kind of gone for a bit now. Like I said, he's kind of an entity now. It was kind of weird. That's why I kind of I was like this is getting a little weird, but okay but.
Speaker 4:Norman's always you know when that would have actually been better to happen. What During Goblin City? Oh, yeah, yeah, where everybody was becoming a part of the Goblin War or whatever it was.
Speaker 1:Norman's had a lot of cool things I liked when he was fucking had the iron suit. He was iron like Iron Patriot and shit, he had his own. That was cool Spider-Man.
Speaker 4:Wasn't he also one of the original founders of the Thunderbolts? Yeah, you're never going to get that, his claim to fame.
Speaker 1:He killed Gwen Just because he fucking wanted to. I'm going to kill her. I want to get to Peter. I want to get to Spikey. I'm going to kill Gwen. Bro, Diabolical Goblin just wants to fuck Peter's life, that's all.
Speaker 4:He brings up stuff like that on purpose.
Speaker 1:That's his whole. You gotta mention it when you're talking about Goblin. That's his thing.
Speaker 4:Why don't you bring up the 90s version of that, where he disappears, mj, into a fucking black hole and we never see her again?
Speaker 1:Yes, we did X-Men 97. She's back. He found her. I got that quick. You forgot that, didn't you? You found her.
Speaker 4:I didn't watch 97, so it's on me. Damn it that one's on me.
Speaker 1:That one's on me, but I liked. When he became Red Goblin. He had the Carnage symbiote for a while.
Speaker 4:Why the fuck does your love interest get a goddamn comeback?
Speaker 1:I loved Red Goblin. I loved Red Goblin when mine first comes back.
Speaker 4:she gets raped, you comes back she gets raped.
Speaker 1:You said you were talking about that Sin's Pass story.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but you got under my skin, so now it's there. Oh, under the skin.
Speaker 1:Son of a bitch.
Speaker 3:But okay, it's better than under the skin Norman.
Speaker 1:Osborn. Green Goblin, I could ramble about Norman forever because I love him. I just love Norman. Willem Dafoe brought him to life beautifully. I think Willem Dafoe is low-key a psychopath.
Speaker 3:Not uh In real life. Dane DeHaan no that was. That was his name right.
Speaker 1:I like how they did the scene with killing. Well, you had to do it, it was iconic. But it wasn't Norman, so that part of it didn't hit. But the scene hit, not the oh, because Norman died. Not that weird Dane, that goblin you order from Timu.
Speaker 2:Garfield went on. When he was doing a thing for this latest RonCon with him, he got asked the question what it was like filming that scene off of Saving Zendaya. Yeah, it's like I was hesitant to do it at first because he thought it would take away from the scene that they were already in, but it became such an impactful it just did something else. I love that scene.
Speaker 4:He still needs to fight an alien.
Speaker 1:I want to fight an alien. I got to fight a guy in a rhino suit. Damn it, that movie is.
Speaker 4:Number four.
Speaker 2:Oh bit time. What my bit time? Yeah, your bit time. Give me your phone my phone how's that?
Speaker 1:work or what?
Speaker 2:give me your phone. All right, shawzy, I got my pictures of spider-man oh shit, it's jay jonah jameson.
Speaker 1:J Jonah Jameson.
Speaker 4:How did you pull that over on us? Damn he did.
Speaker 2:I told you it's probably my best bit yet I know he's got some on there.
Speaker 4:I will shake your hand for that one. He got us both. He got us both. We didn't even fucking think of that one. We should have seen that fucking coming, aaron.
Speaker 1:Taylor Johnson's here. We didn't see that coming, no one.
Speaker 4:We should have seen that fucking coming, aaron.
Speaker 1:Taylor.
Speaker 4:Johnson's here. We didn't see that coming.
Speaker 1:No because you died.
Speaker 2:Damn it, mr J Twice. But uh, mr J Jonah Jameson, that's number four.
Speaker 1:He is great. He was so great in the comics. But let me tell you, JK Simmons brought him to life. Mm-hmm, Do you know what brought him to life? You? Don't trust, and you could watch that whole movie of clips on YouTube of just his one-liners and die. Mr Jameson, you don't trust anyone, do you? I trust my barber. Oh, where is she coming? Hey, tell the caterer not to open the cat door. You cheap bastard. How much is that?
Speaker 4:That's just him. Yeah, because guess what, you didn't make it far enough into the story with us. But Ketherick Thorne, he makes that character too.
Speaker 1:One of my favorite. No, I forgot about one of my other ones.
Speaker 2:It's good to see him and feel how well he pays off Santa Claus.
Speaker 4:That too, I can't wait, because I know for a fact that one of his first lines is what took you so long.
Speaker 1:Jonah, we can't get pictures of him. The guy's there and gone. Oh, if we can get pictures of Julia Roberts in a thong, we can definitely get a picture of this weirdo.
Speaker 4:The lines that you remember it's fucking great.
Speaker 1:I like when in three, when he's trying to get pictures and the little girl's like films extra and she's like 100 bucks, fucking legendary they bring him back and he's a menace. You see, folks, he's a menace and now he's. He's basically family to peter in a lot of current stories I actually love their he is he was with them married.
Speaker 4:Oh dude, with fucking at may they brought that concept back to an Ultimate Spider-Man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's best buds with Uncle Ben, with Ben, who's alive. He's alive. Uncle Ben is alive in a new Ultimate Spider-Man Fuck off.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, no, no. Hey, we got to shut our mouths now.
Speaker 1:This man just brought into existence his death and their ghost writer for their paper in there. His name is Ben Reilly. I'm like, yes, I love that call.
Speaker 4:Number four, anna Maria. Okay, a midget I fell in love with.
Speaker 1:Oh, I remember.
Speaker 4:Yep, I really. I wasn't supposed to like the storyline as, like Superior Spider-Man, took a lot for me to convince this asshole to read, because it wasn't Spider-Man.
Speaker 2:That's not the asshole we want to convince to read.
Speaker 4:We can't get him to read shit Because he's dyslexic. If there was a fucking word spelt out in shit, he wouldn't even read that and he would find that hilarious yeah he could speak pig Latin fluently.
Speaker 1:Makes no fucking sense.
Speaker 2:He doesn't make any goddamn sense he chooses not to read, we know it.
Speaker 4:I'm dyslexic.
Speaker 1:Says it every fucking time.
Speaker 4:Without her character we wouldn't have Doc Ock relating to Peter as much as we did. Yep, Her being short and making all the jokes and being just this tough attitude. Little girl kind of like Pike.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 4:Just ups the character for me, yep, so that's number four. And she's not from Australia, okay.
Speaker 1:My number three.
Speaker 4:That.
Speaker 2:I know of.
Speaker 1:Number three. My number three is Gwen Stacy. She made it up to three Mother.
Speaker 2:I love Gwen. I knew that was going to get taken. You knew that one, yeah, but he, it's number three, yeah, three though.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, well, you know people Jay's like I know who's missing, but uh, you only have two left, but no Um.
Speaker 2:And he's mad at one of them, and he's probably gonna tie number one. He probably did, considering he's mad at me for my tease.
Speaker 1:My uh, oh tease, my uh, oh God, but uh.
Speaker 3:It's not just.
Speaker 1:It's not just Gwen, because Gwen died and she was great. Then she's come back, yadda, yadda. But what breathed life into Gwen's whole character?
Speaker 4:is fucking.
Speaker 1:Ghost Spider. Is Spider Gwen that breathed?
Speaker 3:so much life.
Speaker 1:And the fact that they flipped the whole story and Peter was Liz Spider-Gwen that breathed so much light, the MJs, yep. And the fact that they flipped the whole story and Peter was Lizard in her universe.
Speaker 4:You know, the only thing I don't like about her new character.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 4:Her and Miles.
Speaker 2:I don't hate it, but With Peter dead.
Speaker 4:No that there was this entire arc where them two were getting married Just because at this point in her universe she is the same age as Miles. This isn't our Gwen Stacy. That's what they were trying to sell, and they did it for a lot of readers, Not me. I still like her, though.
Speaker 1:She has one of the best suits too. That suit is dope. I love her suit, it's so special.
Speaker 4:I am kind of mad they got rid of the ballerina shoes, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, they were a little different here. They kept her suit. I like that. They got the webs on her hood, but they basically gave her Jordans.
Speaker 4:Now I'm like she has Jordans now. It used to be ballerina shoes, yeah, now was true Because she had an aspect of her life where she was a dancer. Yep. And she incorporated that into her suit, which is cool.
Speaker 1:I loved her look, though, too, in the Spider-Verse. I like when Peter ripped her hair out. She's kind of got that. Oh, I got my hair cut now recently, so it's perfect. She's got that hair kind of swooped long this way and it's shaved over. I love that. I actually like for her. I like that Good stuff.
Speaker 4:The only time he likes short hair.
Speaker 1:True, yes, it's rare. It is very rare, I give that, but it's the swoop long. This way, it just fits. It just fits. It just fits, okay.
Speaker 4:Gwen, does it fit for you?
Speaker 1:Uh-oh.
Speaker 4:Number three who else died?
Speaker 2:That's hilarious because we already talked about him craving the honor.
Speaker 4:You son of a bitch. And he does have a tombstone. Literally he does. What does it say on his tombstone?
Speaker 1:Craving the hunter, I think.
Speaker 4:It just says craving the hunter on his tombstone. I thought it said something else.
Speaker 1:I still like how the man just completed his hunt and he's like well, I got nothing left, I'm good he takes a fucking rifle. Remember he killed himself in Kramer's last hunt.
Speaker 4:I'm done, I'm done. Gave no shits. The only time Dean is okay with suicide. He completed his story. It's fine.
Speaker 1:Spider-Man 2 still had one of his greatest endings ever. That man just, I'm going to go out and fight this big monster and he's laughing at it.
Speaker 4:He's laughing when he gets his head bit off.
Speaker 1:Ha ha, that's you craving.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, that's not even line that got you and I perverted it for you, but you still love it. Do a harder. Oh my god, yes. During a fight he says that Hit. Oh my god. During the fight, he says that Hit me harder.
Speaker 1:Venom's beating the shit out of me. He's like harder, harder, and I'm like great, Fucking great.
Speaker 4:But they captured his character.
Speaker 1:Yep, it was a great part of that game Great part Three Silk.
Speaker 4:That's a good one. That's a good one. When she first came out, I loved her character, cindy Moon. She was actually a fresh breath of air as far as creating a new Spider character. Yeah, it's very true, especially her background. It's like all right, we have an explanation as to why she is who she is and why she's only now showing up.
Speaker 1:I liked her first appearance when she's wrapped in webs and just starts making out with Peter.
Speaker 4:That whole thing about her and him in pheromones. I need that to just continue. Bam, did you know that was a thing? Anytime them two get close together, they get so fucking horny they have to kiss each other and make out so Hancock yeah, alright holy shit.
Speaker 1:I think Hancock came out first and here's where I'm gonna start getting shit, cause here come the cop outs, here we go. Number two this won't be. You'll be surprised, like god, we forgot. I'm wondering if you're surprised they haven't. Here come the cop-outs, here we go. Number two You'll be surprised, god we forgot. I'm wondering if you're surprised they haven't shown.
Speaker 1:I'm wondering if you're All right number two. I'm wondering if we're going to be like oh yeah, they should have been on Eddie Brock and Cletus Kasady, carnage and Venom. Look at Jay's like, yeah, I should have known they'd been high on Deans.
Speaker 4:Yeah, high on Deans, I wasn't you know.
Speaker 1:My number two. Your number two is just. Venom, though, right I couldn't pick between Carnage and Venom.
Speaker 2:I love them both. I have a complete bias.
Speaker 1:A bias Between both of them. Carnage is just. Venom is great. I love how he always is teetering with good. He's a good guy, but he just don't like Peter and he don't like Peter, but they eventually kept peace. Carnage is just. If the Joker thinks you're more psychotic than him, you got something. He said that in a crossover.
Speaker 4:There are two people that the Joker made infamous Carnage because he was more psychotic than himself and Red Skull carnage because he was more psychotic than himself.
Speaker 1:and hey, I, and not red skull I. I may be bad, but I don't like nazis that was great.
Speaker 4:Two of the best comic panels ever, yeah I may be evil, but I'm no nazi.
Speaker 1:What the fuck dude. He's ready to fight red.
Speaker 4:That and, uh, I think it was a scene from Batman Animated where Joker says I don't fuck with the IRS. I don't fuck with the IRS. There's also.
Speaker 2:I think it was one of the more recent ones where he goes, where I think Scarecrow reveals the identity of him, with Joker in the room. That's Harley Quinn, yep, and it's like where's my electric car, bruce?
Speaker 4:What the fuck is that? We were supposed to have electric cars, bruce. But yes, the symbiotes are all cool. I love Alan Tudyk. That guy just should continue voice acting everything, yep, yep. And him as Optimus Prime is something though. Yep, earthspark, I got a new season of that, so I had to say something. The?
Speaker 1:symbiotes are all cool, the fucking symbiote. They're all cool in their own way.
Speaker 4:Oh hey, you said you're number two already. Yep, Gwen Stacy, fuck you.
Speaker 1:There you go. No, specifically I meant I'd be offended if you didn't keep her on your list because you, yeah, okay, gwen Stacy.
Speaker 4:Well, why Do you want me to say more on that one? Sure, I liked her before MJ. Then she died off and then her character just kind of got played with.
Speaker 3:Literally yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, for no fucking reason, yep. And then, and here's the thing, we get MJ right. Yeah, we get the true love and I'm putting that in quotation marks here. Yeah, because they keep fucking messing with us with that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's Peter's true love. I don't care, they will never not convince me.
Speaker 4:They will never not convince me they just need to make it a fucking thing. Just let her keep the suit, jackpot, jackpot, but still be with Peter, then we can get 616 Mayday back or 616 Ben Benji.
Speaker 1:Baby Benji who is chilling with Uncle Ben. Still Baby Benji who is chilling with Uncle.
Speaker 3:Ben still, what the fuck?
Speaker 4:But she was always a character that challenged Peter. Yep, yep yep, as a person Always made him second guess himself. So she wasn't the perfect girlfriend, but I like her.
Speaker 3:It's true, very true.
Speaker 2:So, my number one, I assume your number one is a tie. Yes, it is a tie, and they recently share a comic book together.
Speaker 4:Yes, Is that still running?
Speaker 1:No, it just ended, but my number one.
Speaker 4:yes, Was it a five comic run? It was five.
Speaker 1:My number one is tie, mary Jane Watson and Black Cat. To no one's surprise, I brang with one of my favorite comic reviews. I didn't even fucking know you had that, of all fucking time, I took this out of the fucking sleeve Just for one thing. Let me go to it. The ass. No, hold on. There's a, and I love the heart.
Speaker 4:They're both wearing the fucking suit.
Speaker 1:They're both wearing her Black Cat suit and I love the heart. They're both wearing the fucking suit. They're both wearing her black cat suit because and Peter wakes up, and this is canon. Now Read the quote here from Black Cat herself. I mean, I wasn't sure if your dump truck ass could fit in one of my suits. One of the greatest lines in the history of comics. Everyone at Lost World agreed. They are great. I love them both equally and their chemistry is so fucking good. That's why I keep reading. They share peter, they openly share. Oh, peter's in the hospital bed here and he wakes up, he sees him and peter says oh, it's that dream again. Be gentle, please.
Speaker 2:That's just dean right there dean's dream.
Speaker 1:Yes, I keep people would laugh, but I keep this. This is one of my I've had so much fun with this goddamn issue, man. This was so fun. It's a holy grail of canon and this was the jumping point for me, anything that they. I read their crossovers every time. They do them mary jane even for a while got the amazing mary jane, which was a good comic run, but they stopped it.
Speaker 4:I hated when she no, that's I hated when she worked for Tony.
Speaker 1:I hated that too. That stopped because of COVID, so the Mary Jane run kind of stopped. But now Jackpot and Black Cat just ended, so they'll probably work another. Because they keep doing these crossovers. They sell. People love these Because, like I said, they're great, they've fucking got chemistry, they're great.
Speaker 4:And Black Cat just called her red you know red, you know red, you know thanks. Thanks to her, I do that with any redhead I meet as much as instantly nicknamed red as much as uh, as much as when she held oh jesus, red she-hulk, not green she-hulk, as much as people can make the case.
Speaker 1:Gwen Stacy is Peter's true love and all that shit. I won't dispute it, but people might dispute in terms of love interests. I put both of them above.
Speaker 4:Gwen, mj is the reason that he made a deal with the devil, so you got me there. And Black Cat is that? I put both of them above.
Speaker 1:MJ is the reason that he made a deal with the devil, so you got me there, and Black Cat is that naughty fling that just is so perfection. It is just always perfection there. She's kind of pissed up here now, though she's still a little iffy. Why do they?
Speaker 4:keep doing that Well she's still a little.
Speaker 2:It's a love-hate relationship. What are you?
Speaker 4:No, no no, they literally had an arc. Well, when Doc Ock took over his body, he beat the shit out of her.
Speaker 1:Felicia was doing her normal playful shit she does and Ock, just.
Speaker 4:He treated her like an average normal villain. That didn't deserve shit.
Speaker 1:And she's still iffy with Peter. She's like hmm, they recently started dating again.
Speaker 4:Ever since that they've kind of been going back and forth, where she's this villain type, doesn't give a shit about him and could care less, and it's just been back and forth, love.
Speaker 1:She still has feelings. She kind of had to cut it off now, but it'll be back.
Speaker 4:You said the wrong words there for her. What? Cut it off?
Speaker 1:Cut it off oh God, well, she's the type to do it Well. Cut it off, oh god, well she's. She's the type to do it well. And Black Cat's also. Black Cat's also bi as fuck.
Speaker 2:She's been sleeping with women now, which is oh that made you even more happy, especially according to Spider-Man 2, that was that she had a girlfriend.
Speaker 4:In Spider-Man 2, I thought yeah yeah, that is one another thing she showed up and we yeah. But yeah, that is one Another thing. People showed up and we got nothing from it.
Speaker 1:The DC people content. We'll all. We'll debate me on this and I don't care, because DC and Marvel not rip off each other all the time. And black cat is a obvious rip off. A cat woman, but I actually prefer the rip off. I like cat woman, but Felicia has got just such. I don't know she's she. I like Catwoman, but Felicia's got just such. I don't know. She's so spunky, felicia gets better coverage. Yeah, that's true. Oh damn it. Despite less coverage, she's always got the Yep.
Speaker 4:Well, she's not played by Halle Berry, so Prime example oh, MJ's doing it too.
Speaker 1:Shit. I still can't believe she Dump truck ass. I still can't believe she dumped truck ass. I didn't expect to read that line in a comic man. I'm reading like that shit's canon.
Speaker 4:Now, mary Jane, your line came before that. Oh, it's this dream again Be gentle, be gentle. You would never say be gentle. No, oh no.
Speaker 1:No, gentle, okay enough I could ramble about them forever.
Speaker 2:Any guesses I said mine would surprise you.
Speaker 4:I have no guesses.
Speaker 3:I don't care to guess we're going to have Dean guess what do you think his number one is?
Speaker 1:God, let me. It's not Norman.
Speaker 2:It's not Goblin, even though he's just staring at me.
Speaker 1:I'm waiting for your guess, harry Osborn, that would be something.
Speaker 3:Venom was two Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:Favorite Spider Goblin Queen.
Speaker 3:That's a new one.
Speaker 4:You don't know who that is.
Speaker 3:That's another one of my new sexy heart-.
Speaker 4:I almost put it on the list. That's another new sexy heartthrob.
Speaker 1:Don't bring it up, I'm going to anyway, I'm still my up, I'm going to, anyway, I'm still my bad. I said Wade.
Speaker 4:M again.
Speaker 1:Oh God, I give, I'm going to guess Norman, because it'd be. I'm going to guess Great Goblin, is it not? It's Norman, ha, ha.
Speaker 4:I was right. Fuck, I was a generation off. No, I was more than a generation off, because Spider Goblin Queen takes over after a while.
Speaker 2:He gets my vote because he's been a villain, no matter whether he's Green Goblin or Norman.
Speaker 4:He was also voiced by one of the goats.
Speaker 2:And played by one of the goats.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, wilhelm the Foe I call him Wilhelm man, just man came back just to fucking beat up Tom Holland, steve Bloom, did you ever, did you ever? I watched the interview with all of them and when they first bragged the script of the foe, he was like well, that's kind of nutty, I'm dead. And he's like I'll do it, I'm game, but it's just always funny. Willem Dafoe is 69 years old, does his own stunts and there's a little home bias there because he's from Appleton. He was born in Appleton, wisconsin, boy, that still floors me. Born in Appleton? That's great, that's fucking great.
Speaker 4:It's better than uh Shit. What is his name? The current Hulk actor, Mark Ruffalo?
Speaker 1:Yeah, is he from Racine or Kenosha? Pretty much.
Speaker 4:Yeah, racine, racine.
Speaker 2:So your final one.
Speaker 4:I've said it already. I don't know if I need to give more reasoning for it, but Mayday Parker, I would absolutely love if they gave her comic line, a cartoon or something, some type of love, other than a small cameo with no lines in the Spider-Verse movies she does show up but that's it. She doesn't get enough love. Because she does show up, but that's it. She doesn't get enough love. I mean, she's a main character in the whole fucking Spider-Verse comics, yet I mean I agree totally.
Speaker 1:I'd like to see live action Fucking Benji.
Speaker 4:Benji Parker, one of the strongest Spider-Man ever, benji Isn't getting any love. That universe is one of my favorite universes because we got the A2 Avengers, where you have the children of the Avengers, which has an inclusion of Juggernaut's son.
Speaker 1:Juggernaut's son.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know where you got the silver fucking helmet and everything. He's not magically powered. Oh yeah, he's a real mutant this time around.
Speaker 1:Magic, the magic.
Speaker 4:It's kind of sad, though, that she does actually hook up with an Osborn. They just can't get away with that. They're, you know, away from that story. There's one thing you know yeah, they don't get away from that story or the symbiotes, because she had a whole symbiote and clone story as well. Yeah, but the clone thing was pretty cool, except for the whole fact that they brought back the trauma to Peter. Because who's the real Peter? Yeah, who's the real Mayday? Mm-hmm, because Goblin stole her as a kid.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, oh yeah, I'm just bringing up stuff that you're like holy shit. Why do you remember that?
Speaker 1:You're not supposed to remember stuff, you say it yourself. Sometimes Stuff goes in one ear, not the other. Sometimes yeah, but if you soaked it in, it sometimes stays in there. I definitely soaked that in.
Speaker 4:Soaked it in. Fuck off. I somehow heard the judging and you didn't even hear what I said. Oh, I heard it.
Speaker 2:You're jumping the gun.
Speaker 4:Yep, damn it Alright, jumping the gun Yep, damn it. All right, that's our list.
Speaker 1:Pretty much no, I was doing research.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I was trying to remember if that happened.
Speaker 4:You were doing a bunch of research.
Speaker 1:No, I was trying to remember if it happened or not, because I thought about it. I was like, okay, Earth-65. Okay, that was. I was like has Mary One thing? I was like, oh God, imagine Mary Jane with carnage. It's happened, yeah.
Speaker 4:Stop panting. Pretty soon you're going to have to use that pillow to hide it, because none of us are looking.
Speaker 1:It just fits. It's just perfection, Just perfection, Okay well upcoming. Any closing remarks? Closing remarks? Not really, I mean. What do we have for upcoming movies?
Speaker 2:Next movie, I believe, is Gladiator. Is it Gladiator 2? Double checking, I don't think we're going to do an episode on Red 1, even though we'll talk about it probably the week after. That's a November one. It's a November. I know I was mad that they announced that too. It didn't make sense November.
Speaker 4:Christmas movies should stick into, you know.
Speaker 3:December. Yeah, like.
Speaker 4:Nosferatu Mariah Carey you listening?
Speaker 2:Stay out of November. She's already on thaw. Yeah, they're defrosting her.
Speaker 4:They defrosted her way fucking before October showed up.
Speaker 1:They put out the fucking Christmas decorations already.
Speaker 4:They're out already. I know They've been out. They've been out as long as the Trump and Harris signs.
Speaker 2:It's an interesting end of the year. I don't know what me and the guys are seeing for the next two weeks because they're currently open on our schedule. We don't know what we're seeing, but it's Red 1, Gladiator 2, Moana 2, Wicked Night, Bitch Kraven.
Speaker 3:Lord of the Rings, Moana 2,.
Speaker 2:Mufasa, sonic 3, and Nosferatu. An interesting end of the year.
Speaker 4:I gotta get Keanu as Shadow, so I know that one's for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm trying to see, oh god, let's see. Know that one's for sure. Well, I'm trying to see, oh God, let's see that one's definite for me. You're going to probably end up seeing Wicked, aren't you? Or not for sure?
Speaker 2:It's the same week as Moana 2, so I'm hoping not.
Speaker 4:You're hoping. Don't you vote? You're voting Moana 2 over Wicked.
Speaker 1:I don't think Matt wants to sit through fucking Wicked. I don't think Matt wants to sit through fucking Wicked.
Speaker 4:Oh, no, no, no no, no, not this making the villain look like a good guy again. I'm even more turned off of that movie than I already was. Why'd you have to use?
Speaker 2:the words turned off for a female-led movie, just to annoy the shit out of you. It didn't annoy me.
Speaker 4:It just made my brain go in a weird direction.
Speaker 2:It made you bring it up, so therefore it annoyed some part of you.
Speaker 4:No, it didn't annoy me, it just made my brain go in a direction it shouldn't have.
Speaker 2:I mean when I say screw the Wicked Witch, I didn't mean literally, oh, God you sure I thought he was the only one that liked green-skinned ladies.
Speaker 4:I'm for the blue women, remember She-Hulk.
Speaker 1:Ooh, yes, yes, yes, what? Oh, yes, yes, yes, well, that's, she hulk was in. She hulk's in my, she hulk's in my upper echelon of fucking marvel women.
Speaker 4:for god's sakes, that's gonna be a big strong. We did that list already. Yeah, we did big strong. That was like episode six or seven of the now 33 I think we're on he brought up Fluffer.
Speaker 2:What's your point?
Speaker 4:only since he said it. Oh god.
Speaker 1:Starfire. Now I'm thinking about Starfire. God damn it.
Speaker 4:Now you got me thinking about comic woman different colored skin comic woman that you're in love with cause low key.
Speaker 1:That's been one of my things lately. Not just big old booties, different colored big old booties that you're in Lovett Because low-key. That's been one of my things lately. It's been Not just big old booties Different color, big old booties.
Speaker 2:I'm not lying. Now we've reached the rate at our portion of the show Dean wants to taste the rainbow.
Speaker 4:He's going to find out where Skittles really come from.
Speaker 1:Roy G Biv. Oh God, I mean, she-hulks is green, starfire is orange. I mean the colors, man, the fucking colors. Harley Quinn's is white. Yeah, very white, very white, pale, pale.
Speaker 4:There you go, pale. No, that doesn't even work, no literally the color white. I think Raven, raven and indigo match well. Well, she changes colors on her own. Oh, there you go, you get with raven, and then you got the whole rainbow already. Oh my God, I mean Plus thick thighs, if you want to just random like red, red, she-hhulk, queen, goblin, red I forgot, I never mentioned red we already knew red was your color.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, oh actually. Oh, here I like I went straight to superheroes and then just stick with mary jane.
Speaker 1:No, that's goblin, that's queen goblin, that's the new villain. That's like. That's like, of course, dean you know who she reminds me of.
Speaker 2:To put you in hell.
Speaker 1:Hey, I probably already got my seat down there, my dad's down there.
Speaker 4:Do you?
Speaker 1:remember Ben 10? And people, if in your case you're wondering there's a joke that my dad is Satan, that's the joke. But what were you saying?
Speaker 4:The show Ben 10? Yeah, I think they're called. Is it Thanagarians? No, they're four-armed fucking aliens.
Speaker 3:There's a four-armed alien that looks just like her.
Speaker 4:Go Earl. Yeah sure, Except they don't come in feline nature, oh God.
Speaker 1:Best thing about Ben 10 is the fucking two big faces arguing about Alien X. No, yes, you can only use the power when they agree. No.
Speaker 4:Well, somehow Ben always gets them to agree. No, no.
Speaker 1:Oh God, Well, all right everyone. We've rambled on enough about Venom and random movies and frickin' Spider-Man characters top ten, Thank you for hanging out with us. Better leave before it gets too raunchy. Forgive my rants about different colored movies at the end.
Speaker 4:No, that is not the raunchiest we've gotten.
Speaker 2:No, it's still Fluffer, that episode.
Speaker 4:We can have the people decide what is our raunchiest episode. That one.
Speaker 2:We'll find out. We broke Dean more than once.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God.
Speaker 4:No, that's not your best. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, you don't want to hit my head downstairs. Yep, yep, that was classic. That was that episode.
Speaker 3:All right, didn't he get his?
Speaker 4:head in one of the episodes too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Was that just Dungeons and Dragons? That was Dungeons and Dragons, oh damn.
Speaker 4:I wish I had that on recording.
Speaker 1:All right, folks have an amazing night and we'll see you on the next one.
