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Aquaman's Final Tide: Heroics, Villains, and DC's Cinematic Sendoff
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With a flare for the dramatic and an eye for the comical, we dissect the villainous buffet offered up by the Aquaman saga. From Ocean Master's treachery to Black Manta's relentless pursuit, we're navigating the undercurrents of what makes a memorable antagonist. Expect to be amused by our take on the 'dollar store King sharks' and the undeniable wit of John Rhys-Davies, all while we theorize on how action and humor manage to coalesce amidst the real-world tidal waves.
Don't miss out as we critique the narrative pitfalls and studio sidesteps that led to the DC Extended Universe's murky waters. We ponder the metal mettle of superhero accessories and wax nostalgic over Ben Affleck's caped crusader. Rounding out our odyssey, we debate the authenticity and reimagining of iconic characters, diving into casting choices that ripple beyond the shores of Atlantis. Join us for this cinematic celebration and critique, where we don't just review; we revel in the heroics of it all.
Hello, all welcome to the last hurrah of the DCEU the Aquaman, the Nalos kingdom review till 2025. We are the night falls veil podcast. Did that little out of order but I had to get that out of the way it's there. It's the final DCEU.
Speaker 2:Here's talk about DC. It'll be random, something we thought was interesting, probably our last DC.
Speaker 1:Content for a bit, I would say there's yeah yeah, definitely won't be our last WB related. Yeah, this will be our last DC content.
Speaker 3:Our movie is maybe Batman to the Batman to yeah, yeah, yep.
Speaker 2:That we want to use.
Speaker 3:HbO the Warner Brothers shows.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what the hell does the penguin come out?
Speaker 3:I don't know. No, I keep seeing advertisements.
Speaker 1:Nobody know nothing. Nobody know nothing. Oh my god. Well, I guess first we're starting with Aquaman the Lost Kingdom review.
Speaker 3:Oh boy we're Word of warning I have not. I did not see the movie with these two this time because I saw it a couple weeks ago. We're a little late on this movie versus compared to what we usually do. This for others.
Speaker 1:It wasn't a urgent episode per se, but it was more so family stuff than it.
Speaker 2:It's a holiday. I didn't mean it holiday stuff. I didn't mean to put it that way, especially considering the movie itself.
Speaker 3:What you mean the fastest. In the furthest movie with submarines I told him that. I just considering how fast, as in the first movie, did have a submarine, but I Mean in three of the movies.
Speaker 1:I felt we should do this episode just to get the last who robbed DC out of the way, because again DC's going dormant for a while On the on the episodes because we ain't got nothing Like unless if we choose to want to touch the Warner Brothers shows.
Speaker 3:That's the only other thing for a while.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cuz they're all James Gunn's working his magic. Oh, hopefully.
Speaker 2:Well, he's starting with Superman again, so we gotta talk pros.
Speaker 1:Talk about Aquaman a little bit. They were seem to be going off into a thing it was the movies fine? No, he's fine, I agree, but it's a they made entertaining movies. I like the movie.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry past four movies that came out were Entertaining. It was entertaining.
Speaker 1:But the thing that hurts this movie is and like I said, I managed to get like a lot of enjoyment out of it, but it nothing matters. You don't fucking care. Watching it, it's like don't fucking matter. This is done. This is done. That's not leading to anything. Yeah that's one of my biggest gripes. I mean, I get it. They had the release it to make money. I get it if it even makes money now it's made more money than Captain Marvel.
Speaker 2:Side question here what are those that, the tubes, that Baptist tank? It's the Baptist tank, yeah, I don't make the Joe to serve. I'm watching him lay there with the stuff on his Tube.
Speaker 1:I was mad at who art does Arthur know? His dad is the greatest bounty hunter in the galaxy, retired.
Speaker 2:Well, that explains him turning into the greatest bounty hunter at DC. Is that his title? Sure he better turn in a lobo, a lobo we're hoping he's got years to do yes request.
Speaker 1:I think Vin Diesel did write the script.
Speaker 3:I don't think Vin Diesel didn't need to write the script to Momoa, just needed to continue on from what his last movie was.
Speaker 2:What's the working on alchemy? And fast and furious at the same time.
Speaker 3:It's hard to keep track of how many times Aquaman to has been postponed.
Speaker 2:Well, that was what I was trying to figure it out during the movie, because of how much was Actually relevant in the story to what's actually happening Today. Well, let's see the fires, earthquakes get to everything that was happening. There is like, huh, why is Hollywood trying to put all this in here now?
Speaker 1:One highlight I I enjoyed black man, so again I enjoyed. Black man does the main he's never a bad villain Black man says a better was a ten times better villain. And what the fuck the Marvels give I.
Speaker 3:Have a problem with that, though. Why? Why, arguably, a black man does his biggest is Aquaman's most consistent and biggest villain. Yes, that most people know. I guess I would say yes, why is he the sub villain both movies?
Speaker 1:Very true, very true. Because the guy manipulating him was Cortex and Cortex had like 20 seconds of screen time that that's why I didn't really consider both ocean master and Cortex used him as the grunt.
Speaker 3:Yep, yeah, you fight Aquaman before they spawned.
Speaker 1:Hey, man spoil again.
Speaker 3:spoiler, he's the first villain or the sub villain before the bigville Spoiler alert and you know.
Speaker 2:I didn't feel like a big villain man.
Speaker 1:Matt the went on his terms.
Speaker 3:Held out the hand out on his terms yeah, he's dead because the DC, you is dead.
Speaker 2:He's not dead, he's mutating, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, he's in another reality as what's his dr Manhattan.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:I'm not kidding. He put his the dr Manhattan in whatever TV you will make a watch.
Speaker 4:Watch TV show the day to watch man TV show yeah dr.
Speaker 1:I mean my favorite up there.
Speaker 3:So he did mutate to to the main character, to this movie, have a horror franchise to DC roles. To To DC roles? Yeah, because technically watchman is a DC, oh yeah do.
Speaker 1:You can't forget owl man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Patrick Wilson is all men. They both have their horror franchises. They got the new candy man and conjuring.
Speaker 1:He's not new on watch man Patrick Wilson fuck folks. Soaks so expector to on ash on a ship and no, I just like to forget that a lot of good fuck scenes and I'm we lot of good ones. A lot of swinging dicks too.
Speaker 3:Good fucking movie. And then Momo was just out there doing everything else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fuck fucking being the yep, not a good things.
Speaker 1:That's what my. It was my favorite DC movie. It still ain't been thought I get enjoying my watch. No, you just like the director's cut. That's a good cut. That's a good cut. Well, we're gonna be talking a lot about cuts and it oh, oh I favorite. What favorite thing about favorite thing was I liked orange arc. Though Orange arc was good, I really liked orange arc turning you love redemption into a good guy.
Speaker 2:I liked orange arc that how do you like his new taste and food?
Speaker 3:oh, it's just cockroaches, depending on the movie of ocean masters, been an anti hero depending on yeah, seeing as he is related to Aquaman.
Speaker 2:So even his comic arc is here in there. You did like he. If. If Aquaman pisses him off, then he decides to be a villain. If he doesn't, it's like okay, I'll take care of.
Speaker 1:Atlantis. I'll just chill. I know I do like redemption or a dumpster, so that was, that was a good part. That was a good part. Jason Momoa he plays Aquaman, but he plays himself like, just like the rock does it?
Speaker 3:just he's Jason Momoa. That'll come up in one of my rankings.
Speaker 1:The end of the movie the end, the end of the movie.
Speaker 2:I'm Aquaman, cut some like bro, you just, yeah, you can't tell me, you can't tell me he didn't want to do that since Aquaman. You know, watching that podium scene, I have expected Wonder Woman or Superman.
Speaker 1:I liked how they gave him that. He did that in Shazam. I like how they gave him his um his very accurate comic suit. He had the green pants and the golden, the fucking orange.
Speaker 3:I'm like that is so comically accurate.
Speaker 2:That's cool, oh, oh man during the last fight scene. I almost expected him to get his Forearm chopped off, though, oh yeah get the hook had to get the hook Solid?
Speaker 1:oh, not gonna happen. Solid action scenes again, though.
Speaker 2:Sir, solid action. Taking time actually helped this movie, because the CG didn't look bad.
Speaker 1:I thought it did. I thought that I Didn't think all of it wasn't as bad as the flash.
Speaker 2:The flash or the first, but every time. But since you could tell when it was on screen. But that's just because our eyes are trained for it.
Speaker 3:Now, well, it's not even that, it's because your brain can't Because of the concept of the movie and your brain can it fully accept these guys are underwater. That's what that's when the CGI was Thrown off to me.
Speaker 2:So you're uh, what am I? What do I want? To call this the Barbie hair where it just flows, yes or nothing, that's when, that's because it doesn't look when you can't actually see the water flow yeah that's where that's the only part of the Movies where the things look incredibly off.
Speaker 3:The other CGI when they're on land or whenever there else. No matter what they did, I didn't notice anything there. It's just when they're underwater where things start to look a little awkward.
Speaker 2:Stowers man, I got to bring it up. How'd you like the bar scene? That bitch just kept singing.
Speaker 1:She didn't give it down. She's paid to sing you. I just kept singing.
Speaker 2:At least you didn't go fish job oh hey man, I didn't pay attention one of the short really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was what you're short, one of the best little. I should not tell. I Swear to God, you can play that jingle and everyone knows what it is.
Speaker 2:Iconic man Apple. Not they did their own thing in that.
Speaker 3:You guys will notice that's iconic, but you can't remember the goddamn fucking exorcist. Fuck you. You played it we knew it, yeah, but you couldn't think of it on your own. Fuck you. It's okay, ryan, couldn't get either.
Speaker 1:Hey, the the blue elephant is the star of that band. Always remember that.
Speaker 2:You play them over. They didn't have a blue elephant for the Fishman band, they just had the singer. That probably made a lot of people guess them, so second guess themselves whether or not they're a furry.
Speaker 1:They're furry, I Well you can tell we had fun with the movie, at least. I mean, I don't know if this is positive or negative criticism, but hey, hey, what's up with skull Island oh.
Speaker 2:Oh did anyone feel that I did come?
Speaker 1:on Peter Jackson big bug shit. Nothing will ever be as creepy as the cavern and King Peter Jackson's.
Speaker 2:I don't know. That's just because that's probably where your fear of centipedes came from no centipedes on.
Speaker 3:There's crickets and big about the con of the Kong movie. What, that's a lot, peter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't see some. There was one big centipede in the lock but down in the thing was like big crabs and they have fucking worm things. That On the motherfuckers head. Fuck man, I had to kill any circus.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The amount of move. Who good movies that man has been in?
Speaker 3:the amount of long movies that man has been in.
Speaker 2:We how long was con?
Speaker 3:The original. The original. Peter Jackson one three hours. That was three hours. Yes, I'll double-check. I believe was a three-hour movie and the circus.
Speaker 2:Well, I can tell when I'm fucking enjoying a movie, because three hours didn't feel like three hours.
Speaker 3:It's not. It's called King Kong, right yeah?
Speaker 2:it's just called King Kong.
Speaker 3:Peter has his name attached to it 2005 differentiated yeah. Three hours 21 minutes. Holy fuck what I.
Speaker 2:Love it though. Mm-hmm. It's very good, it's okay. I believe it was a very good modern take A lot of a lot of the old Kong movie.
Speaker 3:I forgot he was in there what Colin Hanks Coming song. I forgot he was one of the video crew A lot of big names of that move a big ass fucking worm still haunt my dreams that she wasn't right the fuck man Okay, okay, giant worms, I'll think, godzilla, you'll come back. See giant worms. I'm just thinking to the tremors.
Speaker 2:Nothing beats a seven movies, and I don't know why.
Speaker 1:Beats and fucking. Things are in doomer. That's why Nothing beats the worms that are in doon. Whenever they pop up, all I see is a butthole.
Speaker 2:It's all I fucking see, and every time I have to ask you you want to stick it in. Yeah, I do, god damn it. Yeah, that'd be the worst sock puppet you've ever been it yep.
Speaker 1:Yep, like me looks, I'm worms again.
Speaker 2:That was a really bad joke.
Speaker 1:That was the trailer pop. The trailer did pop up in the before Aquaman, though, and I got a good couple seconds, and I remember I had multiple ones.
Speaker 3:I had a good D&G joke for you guys at work, but I got to use, so it was really funny.
Speaker 2:No, Is a tiny knock on that.
Speaker 3:No so that's well so.
Speaker 2:I'll wait till either a breaking point. Okay maybe I'll think of something else that ties it in. Other than that, I mean, I don't, how'd you like your horse? Oh, horsey, see horsey. I forgot his name already stormy stormy.
Speaker 1:Yep, there's a pop of him writing stormy.
Speaker 2:I can't you didn't get it yet. I don't want it.
Speaker 3:I don't know what he got to see, sure what?
Speaker 4:Talked with me.
Speaker 1:What about seahorse? I must be missing some.
Speaker 2:You confused the both of us there After what he got to see, what you get to see, dean.
Speaker 3:Anyhow.
Speaker 2:With holding from the group is not nice with holding son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:I Got some withholding going on.
Speaker 2:We jumped all over the place. As far as the plot of this movie didn't we know well, the plot's very straightforward.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very generic.
Speaker 2:They did kind of just jump through it. Well, they use the ah fuck, what is his name? That does the magic card trick. He's in this one too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I.
Speaker 2:Don't remember the actor's name. What is his name? I don't know. No, I don't know the actor's name. I Actually kind of like them and I am probably gonna end up saying this throughout the week without even realizing it. Astounding.
Speaker 3:The character's name is Steven shit. Oh, that's not the actor's name. I wrote that down.
Speaker 2:I was kind of sad, though, that he didn't become like an intermediary somehow he did he theoretically does Afterwards after he gets out of everything. He was just standing in a crowd, though is what I'm saying. Yeah, he wasn't like at the press meeting or whatever the hell that was, he's just excited, which did happen in the comics.
Speaker 3:That's happened several times in the comics.
Speaker 2:Yeah, two times that come with great storylines and the DC rebirth and the Flashpoint universe. Flashpoint is more interesting, though, because that's when a war happens.
Speaker 1:Flashpoint I despise Aquaman and I despise Wonder Woman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's good reasons to.
Speaker 1:And then that skinny Superman comes and no, gets the fuck out both of them.
Speaker 3:This will get one of the points that I found when I was thinking about. It's like this in two movies, james Wan has given Aquaman fans seven of his villains, seven of his court normal villains or pretend future villains, hit me. Ocean master, yeah, black Manta, uh-huh the trench.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I completely forgot about King fish and the fisherman. Which is what, though? Which is the cantina band?
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 2:Completely flew over my head Just because of the fucking cantina band.
Speaker 1:There's a bunch of dollar store King sharks there too, yeah. They completely tease us with that. Those were dollar store King sharks. Yeah, Cortex.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, I'm missing one. But another one is he fights returned or resurrected King, as at aslin?
Speaker 2:atlant, yeah, and.
Speaker 3:I'm missing one.
Speaker 2:Well, you gotta get the seven just for me to pull off that joke.
Speaker 3:I know there's another one. I'll have to think about it, because what was the?
Speaker 2:the whole point of the movie the seven one, the surface world, the seventh kingdom.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, how many conflicts does Aquaman have with the surface world man? Yeah, so it's like he gave you seven of his villains in two movies At least they didn't dry them out and make him a skinny man.
Speaker 2:No, they did that to Patrick Wilson instead.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, oh yeah, and you didn't kill off his kid. That's one famous comic book. Like to do, they didn't kill.
Speaker 1:No but as waiting for it, I'm like I was waiting for a hot. You don't you kill Boba. Don't you fucking dare kill Boba. They didn't kill Boba, boba survive. Next meet. Don't you kill Orn. Okay, orn's fine, no one died.
Speaker 3:They tried to kill Gimli, but the big crab dude that's good.
Speaker 2:I almost thought he would.
Speaker 1:I lost my fucking arm.
Speaker 3:we won, oh we didn't, I lost my claw and he couldn't kill Bob Lugger, neither.
Speaker 2:Why does his voice sound so familiar? Who the crab or not, or not? We were just discussing him. Him Lee, kim Lee, yeah, yeah cuz.
Speaker 3:You know cuz he's in several things. That's, he's Gimli, he's he was Indiana Jones. That's his voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah he's a crap.
Speaker 1:He's just a big crap. I lost his claw.
Speaker 2:Did he also voice the freaking robot? And the last night, the last night, yeah, you know that skinny a tomatron.
Speaker 3:I don't know, it's all that. That one's a little. He lost his claw. Okay, I don't think so. The Butler one? Yeah, I don't think so. Yes, keep talking about the movie.
Speaker 1:I Was sort of they almost killed Mira.
Speaker 3:But they tried yeah but uh, no, elon Musk wasn't having that one, so Elon was the reason why she came back. Yeah, Elon was the most reason she didn't get cut all of the movie completely.
Speaker 1:If uh, I'm not gonna lie, I'm see, here come, here comes the stories that I'm not paying attention to in Hollywood here comes. The media news here comes, here comes, here comes Dean, but I'm not gonna Ever heard is terrible, but she's, she is hot, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:So you'd like to wake up and find a pile of shit on your pillow.
Speaker 1:Um, that's why I said she's terrible, but she's hot.
Speaker 2:I can't know what I can imagine. Is you waking up, like Amber? Where's the other girl? I don't know what the fuck. I got shit here and there's no other girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, what the fuck you'd be, referencing.
Speaker 2:It, sure I would, I got the cup.
Speaker 1:I Would not Reference that because that shit haunts me. That shit's terrible.
Speaker 2:Who did you?
Speaker 1:watch that in high school? Yep, I did, and I wish I could erase it from my mind, but nope.
Speaker 3:I don't know what the robots name is, so that's gonna be Cogwell.
Speaker 2:Codwell, cog or cod, I can't.
Speaker 3:Randall Parker is the name of the guy that does the oh.
Speaker 2:Oh sounds familiar, though like like the two are similar tones.
Speaker 3:Similar to oh I'm saying Randall Park is your Sebastian Shin guy that you're talking about, though, the detective and, yeah, marvel, I'm still looking up the name of the guy. Randall Park is the Asian guy.
Speaker 2:Okay, I Was like crossing wires there as far as what you were saying, yep.
Speaker 3:It's not cool, man. That's why. That's why I was. I knew you got confused. That's why I started talking about it.
Speaker 2:The initial confusion in my brain is like wait a minute, no, what are you looking up? I brought up two girls, one cup, and now you're on your phone.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'm search, I'm searching that. Oh, I thought you would nope. Never out, never again.
Speaker 2:We don't want to know. Your searcher is here anyway. No, you, concerning you, put the two girls next to you.
Speaker 3:I did. Jim Carter is the voice. I recognize his face. I don't remember what else he does.
Speaker 2:Was it Cogswell or Codswell? Cogsman, cogsman, cogsman? I was partially right and we're all going all at the same time.
Speaker 3:He's usually in downtown Abbey. That is his down.
Speaker 1:Abbey, yep, downtown. Abbey, yep, you said it right Downton, that's downtown.
Speaker 3:Abbey.
Speaker 1:I'll never say no, I said it right. Wrong, I said it right. That's not what I call it.
Speaker 3:I know him from Willy Wonka, what you guys haven't seen yet.
Speaker 2:I might be mad at myself for that one. I would.
Speaker 1:I just wonder where the fuck. After Wonka's adventure in Dune, I wonder where the fuck he finds the time to fucking make the chocolate factory. I Think about that a lot like what the fuck or made the chocolate factory, maybe he washed up on earth.
Speaker 3:There's something I don't know he's no longer on a spice. He's never seen dynotopia. Yes, he's the mayor. The mayor of dynotopia is the voice of Cogsman.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 3:Okay, I cannot, otherwise he's in a lot of British shit, I see.
Speaker 2:I would know, because BBC, that big grandma's heavy on that shit, not the way you're thinking they really think of something new for fucking the British broadcasting.
Speaker 1:They need to really that. Don't stop calling it BBC man.
Speaker 3:That's something new now, that's not their fault. They were existed first than that acronym.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say exactly exist first. Jay was like wait, that's, that's people it's not like we were measuring at a certain point in time here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that acronym was not being used of that way when the company BBC came around.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know it's good. Back to the move. You know, screw back to the way I got back to the movie.
Speaker 1:We need that. We need to get off of the BBC back to your right of you, something else you want to?
Speaker 2:get off the BBC.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no more BBC's, that's so it's not enough anymore. Fuck you that they don't understand that joke.
Speaker 2:But Okay, back to you know the submarine in the movie where he he called it stingray. That's the fucking, not a Lloyd.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know that submarine, I'm not a Lloyd. Yes, it's might as well be a fucking cockroach going across the table.
Speaker 3:No, there goes from a captain Nemo.
Speaker 2:Yes, Thank you. Okay, why did you be so silent then?
Speaker 3:Okay, I was well. I didn't know if your point was finished.
Speaker 2:Where am I supposed to contribute if you I don't know when your thought- why is it called this thing right, when it was clearly that they could it? They?
Speaker 4:could have said it and we all would have accepted it. I.
Speaker 2:Suppose. Yeah, I just kind of like the night light, oh well.
Speaker 1:I like that they gave black man is. Oh, I like they gave black man his big ship, little crew now. Hey, it was a ship, it's big crew.
Speaker 2:The henchman suits more.
Speaker 3:Oh God, and then they all died. Yeah, oh.
Speaker 2:Well, the ones in a volcano certainly did. Or the the uh, it was the furnace. I almost called it a forge. It's not a forge, well.
Speaker 3:I don't know how often ory calcum comes up in back Aquaman's universe.
Speaker 2:Not as often as you'd think.
Speaker 3:DC is very big in their random ass metals and the metal.
Speaker 2:And it's literally NTH. What well it's an alien metal. It doesn't have to be big word. No, Because we puny humans wouldn't understand it.
Speaker 3:Who has more metals, Marvel or DC? I think it's DC Marvel metals. They have three big ones.
Speaker 2:Vibranium Mar-Marvel. You see, the thing is, from my knowledge, marvel actually use Uses all scientific metals that have been discovered or no longer are considered a.
Speaker 1:Element. See, if that's true, I need to find me some vibranium foot.
Speaker 2:It's not right there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is right there. No, that's a vibrator.
Speaker 2:Why do we do that to ourselves every?
Speaker 1:fucking. They're making dick jokes. I'm, I'm everyone's dick joke, fucking.
Speaker 3:Well, it's not well, we didn't do the BBC joke first.
Speaker 4:I did.
Speaker 1:I'm wondering if we've covered every angle of Aquaman lost kingdom.
Speaker 3:I mean there's nothing. Yeah, we can't debate the future of no, it's gone, it's done. It's not. No, it's done. I thought you just said it's gone.
Speaker 1:The fun. Not done with the puns. Yet, people, let's just take into account the final words. And of the DCEU Was I'm Aqua man, and now he will know.
Speaker 4:I thought it was crunch.
Speaker 1:May. If you want a sound crunch shirt, I guess, no, I it's. I'm Aqua man, I'm like Even it, and it's just at the end DC EU.
Speaker 3:No, that was done in the parody video. I've sent you both guys, both the end of the DC.
Speaker 2:You know what they should have done? Just just just for an actual payoff.
Speaker 3:I was gonna say save that for your top, for your five options.
Speaker 2:No, I'm before the end of this movie, as Like an actual end credit scene is. Had James Gunn dressed up in a blue fucking suit and Just does, like this, hand wave like he's dressed up as Mr Manhattan says. It's done.
Speaker 3:Better all you better off just having the flash run across the stream, ending flashpoint.
Speaker 2:They did that and we got spaghetti.
Speaker 1:I'm never gonna I'm never gonna forget that.
Speaker 2:Because, for some reason that theory made way too much sense to me. No, but put science and food together and somehow science makes sense to me. Who knew?
Speaker 3:Goddamn fatty about that one. What Apparently they you, the Nikolai Nicholas Cage CGI wasn't approved by Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, it was yeah, like the family of Chris Reeves, that None of it was Adam West.
Speaker 1:Well, for West and Reeve you gotta go there, I gotta go to their estate.
Speaker 2:The thing is is DC wanted to get it off before Marvel actually attempted to do it.
Speaker 3:And they did poorly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, get one off, for Marvel attempted to do what.
Speaker 2:The multiverse no, marvel always hinted at their multiverse and doing it, but what they were trying to do is make everything exist all at the same time, and DC was like, alright, we could fucking do that, let's put everything in a spear, that's one of my.
Speaker 1:That's one of my issues with DC. We'll talk to her when we do her bullet points about it, but still that was.
Speaker 2:I think we got the movie out of the way. Do we did we want to? We're not gonna rate it because we're gonna end up doing that in. Yeah, the ranking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're gonna your list of today is ranking the DC EU movies from Europe in your opinion, from worst to best, all of them.
Speaker 3:I had a couple notes in case for Kordak. He has two major Development arcs or plot lines. I guess I can say to yeah Well, I mean like in comic books.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I can think of yeah. Yeah, he may have shown up somewhere else and I didn't know about it.
Speaker 3:Um, the one that they seem to have used was he's ancestor of Aquaman Uh-huh makes sense. Born in Atlantean royal family centuries ago, abandoned at birth and grew up as a feral child, despite his advantage.
Speaker 3:He is in the trench right yeah, yeah, but the one that makes it a little bit more awkward and gives a major story difference to Aquaman. Tainted by his father's own hatred, kordak's pit of the different tribes of Atlantis, atlanteans against each other. Thankfully, his mechanical nations were upended and his punishment was to have his hand cut off. Therefore, all Atlantean children born with blonde hair, were told, is bearing the curse of Kordak's. Thus, as how Aquaman was first.
Speaker 1:So they so having blonde hair was original Aquaman, so having blonde hair was bad. Yes, okay.
Speaker 3:So, they're basically, they were the opposite of.
Speaker 1:Hitler. Yeah, okay, I have to get that in yes blonde hair, blue eyes area raise a bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 2:I Am NOT Aryan. I don't have the body type.
Speaker 3:Now you want to hear what maybe not want to go see this movie a second time.
Speaker 1:Oh, here we go here, here go there go.
Speaker 3:So in the process of doing looking up stuff for this podcast and review, I stumbled across a DC release that gave you three Aquaman Titles of comic books to read before you go see the movie. Uh-huh, oh boy. I looked at the synopsis for all three of those from DC comm. I Took one line out of every synopsis and recreated the plot of the movie.
Speaker 2:That seems plausible.
Speaker 3:Apparently, that's how easy it is to write a plot for a movie, and I'm disappointed. I Want to go see a movie again because I was a think about every comic movie We've ever gone to see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's that. Yeah, the writers will take what they like and just here we go. Yeah, except for Captain Marvel.
Speaker 3:So I was able to recreate it. And then you just add in His kid, which was an odd plot device in itself. Yeah, here's his baby, but we're not gonna kill him. You know blood I.
Speaker 2:Can't even remember too many storylines where Aquaman did have a kid.
Speaker 3:But his biggest one. They kill him, yep.
Speaker 2:Like I remember the animating universe where he did have somebody and then the Black Aqualad took over.
Speaker 3:But the comic books were war for the throne of the drowning and the trench and uses Steven shin old Atlantean technology dealing with conflicts on surface world, like all that's in all three, and it's just like you're not doing. Tell me, guess anything we didn't already know, right?
Speaker 2:To read those books and you no longer have to see the movie. Yeah, pretty much Okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean Aquaman war, war for the throne, is just Jason Momoa Aquaman's. Yeah, it looks like. It doesn't look like the stereotypical Aquaman that we know from calm books got the 90s look. Yeah, but this one is just Jason Momoa. Look, it looks like Jason Momoa on the cover.
Speaker 2:It probably was. Yeah, cuz they did do this.
Speaker 3:It was a more recent one. Oh yeah, it was a recent run.
Speaker 2:Because, they like to do that, like we didn't have a black Nick Fury until they wanted to use his likeness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Sam El's action takes over when I replay the character he takes over Taken over Taken over and anything else that don't there, but there wasn't a lot to talk about for this movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's no future.
Speaker 1:There's no nothing to debate. The post credit scene is or needing a fucking cockroach.
Speaker 2:Sounds like DC comics in itself. They keep writing themselves into a hole. Can't say much about Marvel in that respect either.
Speaker 1:Well, at least Marvel's universe is still going. Hanging on by a thread, but still going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it can be saved they brought back the ultimate universe. It can be saved.
Speaker 3:It can be saved. I think I listened to a guy that said that if you're not Batman or Spider-Man comics are doomed for 2024. I Believe it, yeah. Hmm looks like.
Speaker 2:Though this is just the transformer and GI Joe Fannamy that their new comics are doing quite well for me three of the top 25 best selling Comics of 2023 were not you're not interested in Skybound, so they will never be on the levels of the Batman and the Spice.
Speaker 3:No, I know three of the top 25 comics that best selling comics for last year. Not, did not involve Batman or Spider-Man. Wait what? Three of the top 25 best selling comics?
Speaker 2:Where are they?
Speaker 3:I don't know, I didn't. I wasn't intending to bring that up, but you did anyway and you got two comic book. Man. It's like it's those two characters.
Speaker 1:I mean okay, okay, I hate all the side am silos. What's next?
Speaker 3:It Going into your topics, man, the rankings.
Speaker 1:I forgot what the fuck. I didn't think. I damn. I thought you had more stuff.
Speaker 3:I didn't know I said that that was I didn't think I mapped out most of the episode.
Speaker 1:I guess I kind of did. I didn't expect.
Speaker 3:I didn't know how long this podcast episode was gonna go.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's a lot of us. There's a lot to discuss. We're only sure we're fine.
Speaker 2:We did okay for discussing a movie, I think yeah, I'm usually over 30 to 40 minutes.
Speaker 1:Well, not even adding in all the ideas to discuss some things, some bullet points that five like not just not any number like things that the DCEU the past one Could have done better or could have done, that you would have liked to have seen, and then, just after that, discuss some things that you Hope gun does with the new DC universe. I think that was a fair thing to talk about.
Speaker 1:So we're gonna do that first and not do the movie rankings. No, I think we'll save the movie ranking for last. Okay, I think we'll save, see.
Speaker 3:I could you want to go, things you wish you got from DC you first before. Yeah, probably that probably.
Speaker 1:And on the low note, go into the high note and then alone I'll go and look to the future. Look to the future.
Speaker 3:Like we got going five to one.
Speaker 1:If you got a rink, I don't really have them ranked, but I could One thing. I wanted and I only got. I got bits and pieces of it I I wanted. I thought DC would be the one to give me more of it, but I wanted more rated our content, these, if anything, can go there, dc can go there. They gave us the suicide squad, which was rated r and great and everything else. They're just dumbing it all down. Dumbing to make it. It's like just make your shit more adult.
Speaker 3:That's more DC is more adult than mark because of the age restriction. They want people to be able to go see it Back to that I'm not saying everything are.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying give me, like you know, like suicide squad is great.
Speaker 3:I. That's the one of the few areas you can go with to them. You can't do that with Batman.
Speaker 2:It's getting like video game. Yeah, so that you Want to hear that motherfucker dead on arrival?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do not like that game. I heard that's dead on arrival. Really.
Speaker 3:Yep, what the comic books now.
Speaker 2:So the top three were basically as you said. The third one surprises shit out of me. It's the Energon universe, which is void rivals, transformers and GI Joe.
Speaker 1:And they've only been out for three fucking months.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, for depending on where the fuck you live is where you get it.
Speaker 1:Which you got one for that or you just. I guess we take turns, jake, and chime in with some things and he thinks of anything.
Speaker 3:My first one would be one of our classic cliches was having somebody in the room asking questions on why you're just doing to do this. Some topics would be how you killed, how you kill love Kevin Costner.
Speaker 1:No son doomsday's origin.
Speaker 3:Oh god, that was a dollar store.
Speaker 2:Ninja Turtles, these are just your faults, all right, no, no, these are just examples Was the Ninja Turtle that you get from wish.
Speaker 1:That's what doomsday was without a shell.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the doomsday origin. Why Jesse Eisenberg?
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, oh, I'm not gonna he does something. Yes lines with that. Man is the most unintimidating human being on this planet, like shut up even after they shave his head and put him in the goddamn Prison.
Speaker 2:It he's not intimidating.
Speaker 3:Yeah, forcing in an injustice timeline that you were, that you very, we're gonna have to yeah, yeah, that Snider wanted a lot and we never got a whole lot of it. Yeah, and they cut all parts that would have somehow made it better for, according to Snyder and my also, my least favorite point, martha, oh, God.
Speaker 2:I'm on the fence with that one Just because I understand Batman psyche well I, but the common moviegoer isn't gonna even.
Speaker 3:I'm on the record saying yes. Saying the name, saying saying the name yes will cause him to stop. Yes, that made sense.
Speaker 2:But not came up. Yes, we're a bit. Where was the?
Speaker 3:twerp. You gave us nothing to say Okay, now I trust you. After, yeah, an hour and a half of I, have no reason to trust you.
Speaker 1:We're best friends now.
Speaker 2:This is not stepbrothers like hey, I Think that might have been. The one bad thing about that is that we didn't get Batman researching Superman way. No, I should have make that comment.
Speaker 1:This was not a flex. I will never say nothing bad about Ben Affleck's Batman. I will never. I worship this bad, that bad, but um yeah, I'm even watching movie. I'm like this is a little more. This is even aggressive for Bruce. He wouldn't just I'm gonna kill you. Oh, no, I.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it wasn't rubber bullets in that damn machine gun.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you that because he always his voice trying to kill. He would have done a lot more research and not gotten manipulated by Lex To that degree.
Speaker 1:I on this one to that degree. I like that yeah this one's pretty obvious. But I had um, if they would have taken their time a bit more, I thought the whole DCU is rushed from the beginning like movie money, money, money.
Speaker 2:Marvel making money. Let's do it, they would have taken.
Speaker 1:Taking their time, they could have made something pretty decent. I don't know if that ever would have caught MCU, because the MC is a fucking juggernaut. Let's start to slow down now, but that's their own fault.
Speaker 2:That's my number one. Well, no, I shouldn't say their own, but I take their time Disney's fault having a plan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they just and also they fucking. This will come in that play on my list ranking but they ruin so many of their movies because they're trying to copy what the fuck Marvel did. How many of these fucking movies that I want to see? The fucking cuts up. I got my Snyder cut, thank God. The fucking up pissed. I will never get it because he gave up. David Ayer has his own cut of the fucking first suicide squad we said is a great fucking movie that they chopped his movie up.
Speaker 4:We're gonna jump. Never fucking see it. Last villain in there.
Speaker 1:I want that fucking cut. No, no, fuck you water brothers, and you're fucking it's. Cut this movie up. Make it all friendly to Marvel engine. Fuck you, my god.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm only. What's the first suicide squad? Really marvelous.
Speaker 1:What. Yeah, I think so, disagree with me a shit.
Speaker 2:No, I was just trying to think like watching it, I wouldn't it was funny and quippy.
Speaker 1:Everything Marvel does is funny and quippy. Okay, yeah, you got me there. Dc can be a little dark. Suicide squad is, at its core, funny and quippy. I need that, but you don't. I don't know, it's hard to say.
Speaker 2:I will say they have gotten better movie wise as far as lighting and they shoot their movie.
Speaker 1:They cut the movie up to shoot it like Marvel movies and shit. I watched a whole video on this like last week about. I Talked about that in my about DC, about their shit, about what DC does they're just trying to copy. It's like do your own fucking thing, man.
Speaker 3:And they to defend sure definition they were yeah, but a lot of their movies got too dark, figuratively and literally.
Speaker 2:Exactly, yeah, you can see enough can see that.
Speaker 1:Well, the fuck is going on in this scene numbered. My other thing this is my one of my biggest things I never got my solo Batman movie from Ben Affleck starring. Ben Affleck, directed by Ben Affleck. Fucking will forever haunt me. That could have been the greatest Batman movie of all time.
Speaker 2:I fucking said it Having a reason for the suit and the ha ha ha over the all, over the man there was rich Laura, depending on what you're talking about that movie.
Speaker 3:The movie wasn't gonna have that in it. That already happened, depending on which movie you're talking about.
Speaker 1:It was gonna explain more. I just never got that, cuz I. I Only got to see Ben Affleck's Batman and fucking team up movies and that sucks. That is still my favorite Batman. I all the Batman's were great in their own way. I mean nothing solo.
Speaker 2:Keaton was, keaton was great. I'll Batman, ever Superman, because there was nothing solo there. I know I like it's just a part of. He doesn't want to teamed up with Wonder Woman.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my part of me doesn't want to accept that the Batman v Superman Was an entire team up movie, since he was like in Superman for 75%. It wasn't a team up until the end.
Speaker 1:You got me Keaton was fine. Um, I'd like bail, but there's times I think bail was slightly overrated. That voice is pretty bad. There's time, I think, but it made sense.
Speaker 3:Why not change his?
Speaker 1:voice Patinson was. Patinson is fine. I think Patinson has room to grow, but no fucking person captured what I think. Batman is an afflux. He is technical as Jesse would be mad that he skipped over his favorite. So, huh, kill Clooney, kill her, kill Mars is favorite man. What is Batman six to build like a brick shithouse? That's what Ben Affleck yeah, that's that with a fucking great. I loved it, he's not wrong, I know who I want.
Speaker 3:I know who I want to be like when you think of the animated universe.
Speaker 2:There You're looking at Bruce Wayne and then you're looking at Batman. They have the same fucking build but no one puts you know, bruce Wayne is one of those people where you don't have to put on glasses to say, oh, I'm a different person.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know why I want to be the next Batman. So, oh, oh, I'm on the, I'm on the internet side with this one. I would love to see it, but never again happen because he's a little too old, probably for the role. Who is this? Alan Allen Richardson, mmm Reacher, reacher, they had the plays, the Amazon Prime Reacher.
Speaker 1:Very, hell yeah, oh yeah, big brick, brick shit. How is?
Speaker 2:motherfucker. I've seen him as Hawk and I like it.
Speaker 3:Yeah it's.
Speaker 4:It's a.
Speaker 3:Don't forget, he was in Smallville too. He was the original. He was the original Aquaman. That was the fun. That's the funny thing, is the internet finally caught up to For this season two? That's just come out. Yeah, and they're still going. Yeah, he played Aquaman in Smallville. His current love interest and partner in this one was a ton of, and I in Smallville, that's Zatana. Have you been watching it? Yes, I have.
Speaker 2:That's a ton of you're talking about the analyst right. That the one I said yeah that's the top that Smallville Zatana.
Speaker 3:I did not fucking right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just got a look on the internet. Man, it's a, I did not know. She filled out.
Speaker 3:She's. They're both 15 years older. That move, that show is old.
Speaker 1:I wonder I mean she's, you know. I wonder if this is my bias speaking, but you know who else I think I wish would play Batman. This is probably my bias coming out, but he's somebody internets with me, jensen Knuckles. You're like there's some bias there, dean, but he's not built either, though yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll age limit as far as starting in the universe, I mean.
Speaker 3:I Because he's voice Batman.
Speaker 1:He's also voice too.
Speaker 3:I think he would be better play as and that's red hood, mm-hmm, I think he's a better red hood.
Speaker 1:Tonight won't tonight, solid Mm-hmm doing. That's the one that told me that I did not know this. I don't, I don't get all the little news. I apparently Charlie Hunnam, who I wanted to play green arrow, was apparently off, turn it over and talks and turned it down.
Speaker 3:Which, oh, he's getting a little too, so I can't even and his most recent product isn't doing very well, depending on what marketing you think you're looking at, robo moon.
Speaker 1:Oh, boy Whoo, no, no, no, no. Robo moon, no, no, no, no, no wish new hope, no that's stop.
Speaker 3:You mean just our words were Nazis. He didn't die in there, did he? I didn't see it, so I know.
Speaker 2:Well see, that's where I'm different than everybody else. As far as watching rebel moon, I don't see all of Star Wars in it. I don't see it as a rehash of a new hope.
Speaker 3:But if the Schneider did say that it is based on.
Speaker 2:Literally inspired by yeah so it's I could see it. Yeah, I don't see it. Like people are watching it, it's like this is just ours.
Speaker 1:I was like Really, I watched it. I didn't totally hate it. But everybody Nobody likes that. Everyone hates that fucking movie.
Speaker 3:I can't know, I'd have you been paying attention to the news about the Ray movie, about what the the director, what the director has been saying for the Ray movie, for what movie? The rate, the future Ray Skywalker movie, that we're getting all the Ray movie? Okay, no, I am not okay, but I'll say it for that. I don't think I want to put that on there, okay, okay, oh, I'll add it to our list of post talk.
Speaker 1:I'll post all yeah, my number one thing, and we should all know what my number one gripe would.
Speaker 3:Oh wait, before you get into your point, my put. My point was having sold the movies for characters like Having Aquaman before just as Lee came out, having the flash movie before it came out, maybe you would have cared a little off the car they should all have their own solo film for Justice League.
Speaker 2:Exactly, they had his own fucking movie and people would have cared more.
Speaker 1:They introduced two to fucking members in the fucking movie, like bro, cyborg and flash. What the fuck Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you introduced Three characters in the movie and expected people to care about them, when the only person that, out of new casting, people loved was Momoa, because it's Jason.
Speaker 2:Yeah this is Jason oh was that was that, and then Ezra did his shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's one out the rails. My number is my thing, or are you done, matt?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, my thing was like there. You know it's coming man of steel to never happened, fucking crap fucking garbage.
Speaker 2:You mean how we got the death of Superman before we got man of Steel to.
Speaker 1:Bullshit. I that's. I hold man of steel in high regards. He gave us the one solo movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, brought him, brought him in to be a partial villain for the next appearance, then you killed him off and then you brought him back in the other movie that was his entire arc.
Speaker 2:I never did really understand that. As far as Justice League, how he, when he comes back to life, he's all disoriented and he's fighting them, but he has enough cognition, you know, to be able to fight and sit there and recognize everything. But he's not Superman, he's not the good guy, he's just there, he's just angry.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's just angry because he died. Yo I mean brought me back to life.
Speaker 2:I was with my father. But what's that? I think he's gonna have to call it a crow man.
Speaker 1:Well, yes, I'm gonna rig your, I'm gonna hold back a lot of my thoughts of man of steel because there's. I will talk a lot About man of steel when we do our rankings, but I'm but I wanted man of steel too, in the worst way see how much is him wrong on my ranking People two ways.
Speaker 3:I put two as in. She's am on my right. Is that all for your points, cuz I technically still have two more somehow?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you can say I don't, I don't like it.
Speaker 3:Basic this is the. This is one I foreshadowed with staying true to characters me believing as Ramilers. Barry is not Barry Allen. Is that what I can?
Speaker 2:wrong hair color, wrong personality he's, he's he's maybe more Wally because Wally.
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 1:What I don't he didn't even touch Wally. No wait, what are we? I'm lost here. We talk about personality of Barry. No, the personality of Barry's, barry's and and Barry's more reserved into himself.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm saying Wally's more energetic and quippy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was pretty much in between of both yes and Despite. Despite how much I love them, momoa is not Aquaman.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I call a fucking recall.
Speaker 3:No aqua. Jason Momoa's Aquaman was Jason Momoa playing Joyce and Momoa. That was not Aquaman based on my wrongs.
Speaker 1:I don't see not wrong with it.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but that's not the stereotypical.
Speaker 1:I know and we know.
Speaker 3:I know, I know I was completely on the side of the surface world versus most. Aquaman is completely against the Aquaman's kind of a do-sher, why I've never liked me. He's kind of we didn't get that Aquaman.
Speaker 1:It's kind of a do-sher he brought. I'm on.
Speaker 2:That's the one thing I do like about. I'm on the side of the moa's Aquaman because he he actually brought the hero out of Aquaman and not the whole. I'm just gonna green aspect of Aquaman green. I'm not gonna call it woke because that's just wrong.
Speaker 3:It's Aquaman being aqua. That wasn't Jason Momoa being Aquaman. It's Jason Momoa being Jason Momoa. I I'm on the side of both of you in terms of that, because there there was a Joyable as hell, because there's the meme of when, when the whole Halle Bailey getting cast as Ariel news came out.
Speaker 4:Oh shit, and someone my dad were acting.
Speaker 3:It's like, well, jason Momoa doesn't look like Aquaman either, and it's like Jason Momoa could be casted Ariel. We would all that have been fine with it.
Speaker 2:I think he even did a joke anymore. The seashells, jason.
Speaker 3:Momoa being casted is anything, we'll accept it. Terry Crews being casted anything people that just reminds me of. I don't.
Speaker 2:I can't remember what the commercial was for, but you remember the commercial where he took, like the, the muscle suit off and he was just a skinny dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was a super cool commercial.
Speaker 2:Of course I know it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he can't even bench the bar. Yeah, that was a great commercial if Jason Momoa playing Justin Momoa.
Speaker 2:Oh, there's the actual thing right there.
Speaker 3:So, and then the my other one was done better with their villains. Who's the best villain out of the entire franchise, out of all 16 movies? The DC, you, yes.
Speaker 2:Hey, you said it right. There there's the villain.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, holy shit. Wow, best villain fucking.
Speaker 3:Wow man Zod that that is my one. That is my one. It's Jen Zod, and there are people that didn't like his Zod.
Speaker 4:I thought it was my, so even I went through.
Speaker 1:Every week Zod J name off the movies.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 1:One of them in 84.
Speaker 2:What one woman in 84.
Speaker 3:Pedro Pascal, and that was fucking cheetah terrible, fucking terrible, despite how much we love those actors. Yep terrible.
Speaker 4:I Agree, though.
Speaker 2:Love the actors terrible rape was also a villain in that movie terrible.
Speaker 4:Next keep on birds of prey.
Speaker 2:I Love the after rain as fuck underrated.
Speaker 1:I loved you and McGregor's. We'll talk about that underrated what?
Speaker 3:but I don't think he's a good villain. What?
Speaker 2:I didn't think he was bad. I wouldn't make a gay joke, but you kind of like yeah you killed it same ways as Wonder Woman. I don't know what.
Speaker 1:Aries is forgettable. It was fine when he put his armor on that's your list isn't in an order, so it's. Aries was fine when he put his armor on I'm literally just reading what you gave me.
Speaker 3:Look how long it took to get to Aries.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah you have that issue with villains.
Speaker 4:Okay, well, take it off. Take it off.
Speaker 2:You see a villain on. We sure not take it off.
Speaker 3:I think you're the only one that's gonna get this. Are you sure you're not a Cleveland Browns friend? Oh God.
Speaker 2:Fill me in, because that.
Speaker 3:Clive. Cleveland Brown fans were famous because of how that long they've sucked. They wore paper bags on their heads for the games.
Speaker 2:Yep Fits okay that's enough.
Speaker 3:Wheat the flash. No horrible himself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was himself it. We're back to Aquaman.
Speaker 1:Orn was fine. Orn was fine, yeah, and black man I was probably.
Speaker 3:He's probably in the top.
Speaker 1:He's up there, yes, or is up there, that's mainly due to the actor. Yeah, cuz past, he won't send the G.
Speaker 3:Yeah, shazam the first, shazam the first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, magician. Yeah, mark, it was Mark Strong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which is after yes, actually put him, but forgettable he may be my third. I put him right there.
Speaker 3:It's like he would be two or three, yeah, behind Zahn but we're also giving him a lot of credit because it's Mark Strong.
Speaker 1:Mark Strong breast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's by Mark villains.
Speaker 1:Best mark villain was born into place in Estrola, just saying.
Speaker 2:That movie did tease us with a lot more and we never got it. Yeah, and then they tease this again in two yeah, fucker.
Speaker 1:And two is villains, the daughters of, oh god, huh, no, no Great, I don't know how you want to do this because the next one technically on the list is Snyder.
Speaker 2:This, that's not so, that's just asleep.
Speaker 3:We'll add dark sea, dark side into that one, but we don't have enough of dark side just they didn't really use him.
Speaker 1:He was there.
Speaker 2:I'll do step because you would have loved it more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would have loved it though, I know, but I will never. I don't ever want to see dark side on a screen.
Speaker 2:Nope, never, no, but don't we've talked enough about Crematu, batman v Superman, the turtle doomsday, so each other, and then doomsday and Eisenberg, terrible yeah.
Speaker 1:God, I don't know, I'll tell you always say Eisenberg, you never say Lex. I won't call him that. No, I don't. I cranced in that's, that's Lex, if he ever got a shot, but he was too old.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I'm I'm willing to. I'm gonna give Nicholas hold the shot, because he that's who was cast as Lexford Gunn okay, that part is. I can totally see it, that's we're all we're yeah, he's like he's, he can play a Brainiac. We've seen him play a Brainiac, so there's.
Speaker 2:I can also see him be egotistical with like charm and no shittery he put he was the newest version of the transporter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if um. If hold hits the gym a little bit. I wouldn't mind because I'm sorry. This is big to me. I guess everyone for you just have to.
Speaker 2:Let's just go like a brick shithouse.
Speaker 3:But that one I'm willing to say he doesn't have to because a lot of his stuff doesn't mobile power soup and hide him. I know.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying.
Speaker 2:Because then they have to Give me justice for the kryptonite poisoning as well.
Speaker 3:You don't know what they're doing with the movie yet.
Speaker 2:So what do we got? Other suicide squad, the original suicide. Original Suicide squad or suicide squad or just this one says the suicide. So that is the sorrow, so sorry.
Speaker 3:I'm on e, but okay, but not a big, but not an actor. So yeah, that was, but he's what is one of my favorite villains.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there also technically a secondary villain not really, if you want to count peacemaker, because Thinker think.
Speaker 2:uh, uh, thinker, thinker yeah he was just a one-off joke. Yeah, I kind of threw me off because I like Peter Cappell.
Speaker 3:So then the other ones is them.
Speaker 2:I was talking about military force. Why I'm not forgetting her name, big black woman, viola?
Speaker 1:Davis, she's coming back. A man of waller okay, what's man of waller?
Speaker 3:She's an antagonist the entire time. She's not the villain, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, men still we talked about so suicide squad enchantress fucking horrible.
Speaker 3:Enchantress should have been a little brother I can't even remember her name.
Speaker 1:Should have been. Just let us Joker.
Speaker 4:She's am to the god daughters daughters great actresses, but they're villains great again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, does, I didn't care yeah you couldn't care for the villains.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, I don't get rid of the attention between the three of them and just yeah, and this one we all the next one on the list, but I'm gonna say the one after it first black Adam, terrible.
Speaker 1:CGI demon.
Speaker 3:So the mock, the modified justice society, yeah, and then the demon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will never consider justice society villains. Yeah never, I can't nope problem with an anti hero movie. Yep.
Speaker 2:Hawkman, noel hot girl.
Speaker 1:Hawkman was great. I know there's a reason. Black Adam has a soft spot for me. There's a reason, dr Bay. Thank you, pierce I.
Speaker 3:Know it was good there is a reason, any of the castings in that movie.
Speaker 1:There's a reason. You'll see in the rankings. There's a lot of them. What's the last there? A lot, one more. Beetle blue beetle. Who the fuck?
Speaker 4:we there are two, so it's a cold foot.
Speaker 3:Yet the physical force and the oh yeah, what's her name?
Speaker 1:the corporate led that they made I mean, I like the big bulky guy. They made you care for Matthew. He's pretty much manipulate his whole fucking life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you're still divided in between two villains divided between two, and again I part.
Speaker 2:That's all just really muscle brain shit, muscle brains, muscle brains, muscle brain. That's what they keep doing in a dividing it. They never get a real, not everyone can be bane. That's where I was gonna say that we don't get any real pains ever.
Speaker 3:So we almost have a consensus on the top three villains, and it's like you're debating between Mark Strong, patrick Wilson and. Michael Shannon yep, hey, that was a funny story and we're and we're giving a lot of them hot horn and we're giving them a lot of credit for other movies and being good actors. Then we're are giving them for their particular roles and I did like them and the role itself.
Speaker 2:Yeah because you actually thought they were a threat. For fuck's sake, Zod and his crew are mentioned in Four fucking movies.
Speaker 3:Yeah so so done better with their villains and never Really touched on most of that man's and any of his, in any of the movies that offends me that offends me is sad.
Speaker 2:That's one of the reasons we should have gotten a solo Batman movie.
Speaker 3:Yes, you had so much we could have gotten Arkham aside. Hey, man, got more Batman villains in the Suicide Squad and you got, you know, an actual Batman evolved movie.
Speaker 1:Batman v Superman. It was when he was at the um in both Batman v Superman that's like did drop one of my favorite lines. I didn't get much payoff for Jason. Like here it fuck comes. He was talking at the gala thing. He was like oh you, they were like you don't like Superman. And he was like you know and got them. We got a bad thing with freaks dressing like clowns. I'm like Love it. I love that reference.
Speaker 2:And I got nothing for it, never mind, yes, I did I got.
Speaker 1:I got five minutes that I will talk about. I got five minutes.
Speaker 3:I got 30 seconds of Deathstroke that I wanted.
Speaker 1:Was it bad. That had potential. I wanted. Joe Manjunello is death. That's that's. That's that's Tom. I want to want to fight me neither.
Speaker 3:I, mr D&D, nerd himself.
Speaker 1:Everyone asked what's your? You remember his death stroke? No, I remember his last Thompson and punched by Peter in a fucking first Spider-Man Shit. Okay, now we can move on to some good stuff.
Speaker 2:Stuff, we look for that, for some reason, magic Mike and all that just pops in the oil that's that's big dick, ricky, in In magic my husband, of course. That's how you memorize it.
Speaker 1:Are you surprised? Not?
Speaker 3:really I.
Speaker 2:Brought up as a joke and I should have known that was yeah, I'm gonna come out of his mouth. Big dick, ricky.
Speaker 1:I've seen the magic Mike's. I'm sorry, they're funny. Leave me alone. They're fucking funny.
Speaker 2:You leave, you watch the last one just for one person.
Speaker 1:Yes, I want your mother one. I bought it for your mother, damn it, you lie and so my hike was in. There you go. Okay, not okay. Enough, man. I did not expect magic Mike to be referenced in his shit and big dick, Ricky.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but can you take him too busy with Marvel, depending on which room you're looking into?
Speaker 2:I would like him to come back as Duke, but that's never gonna happen, you know you do realize that he did not want.
Speaker 1:They killed him off in the second GI jokes. He wanted nothing to do with that movie. Like kill me, fuck this. I don't want to be a part of shit. That's literally why, well didn't help.
Speaker 2:The rock took everything over, like he does, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, I did. I did get a thing out of one of the things I watch for stunt guys and One of the guys that got hired to be on one of Dwayne's movies as the Stunt guy coordinator Was surprised as hell when Dwayne walked in and knew all the fight choreography he was gonna be a part of already and he's like wait, you know all the fight choreography, how it's like dude, I used to put on 30-minute live shows. Why wouldn't I know the choreography?
Speaker 1:It now. We'll talk about some things we hope to see from gun that gun does in the new DC universe.
Speaker 2:Let me go first. Let's see sure, I'll have you two go back before the gun and I'll just make use of their white selection of Villains.
Speaker 3:A lot of these are just opposite of what I think that was my.
Speaker 1:Thing.
Speaker 2:Yep, they definitely do need to hit up on their. Not just Batman's. I mean we've got toy maker for Superman. That would be a cool live action.
Speaker 3:We're going into Lex first.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not horrible, I mean he's. He's a big name villain.
Speaker 3:But you're also giving, they got to do correctly. But they're also giving us characters that we answered. We're getting hot girl in that one or woman.
Speaker 2:Who's the little fucking short dude cycle? Do you remember in the animated Harley Quinn show the little short dude? Mr Mixpix look no, that would be kind of cool to put in a Superman movie but we're never gonna get that Cuz then bat might could happen. The Harley Quinn animated show, you know a little, the little short dude with the black, crazy fucking hair. That would be an interesting fucking woman villain, because it's never been done before my it cut you're kind of On the cusp of mine and this, this is.
Speaker 1:It's kind of horn dog Dean, but not really as a reason for it. I want more female lead movies because all we got was Wonder Woman and I'm like, come on, dad, come on to be fair for the rig.
Speaker 3:There's only One or two common female ones to get the Justice League, and they were trying to set the Justice League well.
Speaker 2:Here's we. You know how we got Hawkman? Yeah, well, let's do the story correct.
Speaker 3:I.
Speaker 1:Get in hot girl. Maybe not necessarily, Sir necessarily leads.
Speaker 2:Just hit one of his fucking favorites, zatanna. Yeah, but she's very interesting.
Speaker 1:I don't think Zatanna could carry her own movie, but she could be an important side character in a Constantine movie that won't. I'll talk about that later you want your dark Justice League.
Speaker 3:Yes, you can, we're get. We're getting Hawk girl in the Superman movie. She's already been cast.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's superman, movie. Yeah, they're bringing in it's called legacy isn't it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so man like a, see if they're hawker. Oh is, it is a Bella Mercer. Well, that's like I got a little. She'll be. She's also one of the people cast for Madame Web, so we'll be staying here again very shortly. They have other cast. Nathan Phillion is one of the great guardian Green Lanterns. Yeah, yeah, I think he's playing.
Speaker 4:Guy.
Speaker 3:Gardner, or he's playing the older one, I can't remember.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Um, oh, this, yeah, this too Um.
Speaker 3:I want Merced, merced or Merced something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got inklings of this and um In like the Suicide Squad movies, but I want a little bit more street level stuff from DC as well. Like Batman, street level. Batman is very street level. Um, more of McGreen Arrow is very street level. Black Neri's very street level. All these fucking, all these DC were so fucking gigantic huge shit, and it's like Spider-man's half spider, my last spider. They're very street level fucking great yeah, but that's probably not gonna be their movies.
Speaker 3:You know that's probably gonna be a TV or the same way the Marvel does as realistic as they like to fucking make things that be the easiest way to do it.
Speaker 2:I just I'm sorry. I don't need a fucking big-ass space show.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I don't need a fucking big-ass space. You're blowing up the fucking earth in every fucking movie like come on, no, we don't need to go, cost me for things to be interesting.
Speaker 3:We don't know what the Batman thing is gonna be, but it's not gonna deal with the aliens. It's gonna be what? The guy you taking over Gotham?
Speaker 4:Secretly don't.
Speaker 2:Don't cause an earthquake, like they didn't the the Batman right away. That, oh yeah, that was too close.
Speaker 1:Let's make no man's land right away and then probably do nothing with this. See, you have any over years, matt. Yes, more more quips, less dark, more quick. Yeah, I think you can balance out more, I agree, I mean you don't have to be a total of these characters.
Speaker 3:How so many one-liners that you can go to and whatever, and they weren't even really using so not as serious as they are. Yeah, currently. Okay, I mean you can get away with grit, but she doesn't mean you can't say yeah, Can't say funny things or one-liners. I trust gun getting the one-liners. Yes, I really do. I mean every. How many do we have for party?
Speaker 1:watching 90% of Watching, 90% stank aren't, I am Matt rea's work them into the plot thank Matt rea's for this joke, but 90% of the damn DC movies you put on and the only song I hear is fucking Nirvana, the whole, every fucking DC movie dark, dark and brooding.
Speaker 3:To go off your point of fuck. That being a street levels, I have Depth and characters. I think more people like more of the secondary characters in DC than they do in Marvel.
Speaker 1:True satana, black canary. We got Teen Titans, teen Titans.
Speaker 2:They definitely. As far as Marvel goes, they just throw characters in.
Speaker 3:There is yeah, but I think a lot more people care about the DC side characters then they care about any of the other, for I Could, I, could, I could see that because I like, I like a lot of for fuck's sake's, titans got its own HBO show, yeah. Which is divisive to some people fuck.
Speaker 1:Batman brah, you start cringy right away. Hey, there's any changed up. Oh hey, wait me watching tight. Oh shit, they're star for never mind. Oh, you're bad. No, I want that, I'm not terrible fucking terrible he did.
Speaker 2:hmm, she never actually played starfire for me, even when her sister came in black.
Speaker 3:I don't even know who played black bar. I don't remember either.
Speaker 2:I can't pick one off things she was supposed to have, like this little redemption arc where she actually was, you know.
Speaker 1:What's starfire? For my favorite iteration, starfire is so far the one in the in a lot of the Titans movies, where she's with when she's with what dick growing she's with the Grayson's money teacher. We got to do that move.
Speaker 3:Oh, now we can't show them that I know what you're. I love it. I love it. It's a very good dynamic. It's a very popular movie though.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, cuz cuz um death strokes a pedal.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I yeah, that was bad. That's Judas contract. Yeah, I fucking yeah like.
Speaker 2:I love the storyline that it's supposed to be. I did not like the the route they went with it pedophilia undertones, yeah that was weird it wasn't an undertone at all.
Speaker 1:No, it was, it was here. I like you. Oh yeah, that was you got in.
Speaker 3:I got you completely Stockholmed that kid.
Speaker 1:I want a more. Well, even though you see you can say it cuz of flash, I want a more Fine-tuned multiverse. I want more multiverse content, but more like fine-tuned to make it work.
Speaker 2:That's. You see, that's one thing I do like about DC, and it's uh else worlds. Yeah like if you want to make your own movie, go to fuck ahead, it just be it's like like mad. You want pirate Batman go to fuck ahead.
Speaker 1:Here we go like. Matt Reeves has permission to be his own thing. The Batman is not a part of DC universe. He's got guns for me, works for me. This is good. I need my um, that's good. I mean, I still wonder the Batman two looks.
Speaker 4:I need my, oh god, no, I need my very key very key gonna fucking Joker.
Speaker 2:I fucking need it Cuz no, I can't say the word come with very king anymore.
Speaker 1:Oh, because salt burn was an underrated gem. I Watched it. It was okay, you're right about the weirdness. At movie was something. It was that was something.
Speaker 2:It was the right amount of weirdness with that ending.
Speaker 1:I said that's just oh this is this is just that you did watch it.
Speaker 2:When did I say I watched it? I said I would have brought it up to us. I brought. I said I watched the trailer. You cannot bring a movie up to us and not have us.
Speaker 1:Just all right, let's put this on you said it was weird, so I was it. You've seen it. Wow, never. You don't know how weird it is. Then it is great. The twist is great. It's basically just Barry Keegan's, joker's or Jets, basically the movie a Whole time watching enough assault.
Speaker 3:Burn no salt, burn my god, no, I went to watch iron claw instead this week.
Speaker 1:I heard that was great. I need to watch that. It is a good movie because I love wrestling. It is a good move there. The curse, the von Erick's, what?
Speaker 2:would you think of Rick?
Speaker 1:I mean they actor that play, the actor that played him for three minutes.
Speaker 3:Sure yeah, what the fuck yeah that's why, he's barely.
Speaker 1:it was only three minutes, that was it. Yeah, it was barely in the movie he did he does one.
Speaker 3:Why am I blanking on the promo? We just one promo. And then he wrestles Bullcut Zac Efron.
Speaker 1:Yeah, zac Efron needs to be nominated for best actor. Don't care, zac Efron is becoming one of those actors.
Speaker 2:That changes his build and way is for every movies in.
Speaker 1:Another one I got um. I have confidence gun can do this with guardian success. I want more lesser known heroes get solo projects. That's like that goes with my deafening character like he did with that man. They did with ant-man and Marvel and the guardians.
Speaker 3:They made B level characters great they have a gun man needed to be a thing for all trauma. What would you say? Gun didn't have anything to do with that part.
Speaker 1:I'm Marvel. Marvel has a talent to make B level characters. Iron man was a B level character. Now he's the one of the greatest things ever to be there mine, I didn't want to piss him off what I was gonna joke with you. Be like what spider-man that's s tier got your, I only have one more Having actors interested in the long-term effects.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because these are not a. Do you mean signing on younger people to play the role for longer, or?
Speaker 3:Having people committed to doing it, like the guy they have playing Superman. Not many people know him, but it seemed like he's willing to stick around for a little while. He's nerdy enough yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean. But here's the thing yeah, Warner Brothers pissed a lot of their actors off at the same time. They had Gal Gadot ready to leave. They had a flak ready to fucking walk. They were there for a while, but they were ready to walk.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they also didn't know what the fuck they were doing and they had so much turnover in the company.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that HBO Max shit pissed a lot of people. I'm off that. Um, I'm gonna tell you who had no issue staying and always wanted to. Here we go here, here it comes. I tell you who wanted to stay and literally wanted to beat him, for Henry Cavill wanted to stay. He always. Can I come back? I'm ready for me to come back. Yet that's my fucking boy, that's my boy, our guy. Okay, now we just have to go play a warhammer. I'm okay.
Speaker 3:What? Just let him go off and do his warhammer and island island. Let him be his nerd.
Speaker 2:I'm glad when people like him actually become producers and have a say.
Speaker 1:This man left the Witcher because they weren't following the material.
Speaker 3:Oh, I have a. I have a thing that that's become out all over the last week and a half. So a Lot of criterias come up from Chad God, I can't say his last name the guy the director of John Wick's all the John Wick's Was a one of the original people in the room to direct this blade movie that was supposed to come out and they turned him down.
Speaker 2:Did they bring him back?
Speaker 3:No, he's, he's moved on to. He's great, he's teeming with Cavill for the Highlanders shit, he has no time anymore, Okay, that's fine by me. But you had him in the room as One of your candidates and you said no somebody who knows action, he knows Lord for a blade movie and that has got. That is getting rewritten because it didn't have enough action in it. That was the original script had 30 minutes of action for the entire movie sounds like a Marvel movie, yeah. Marvel's.
Speaker 2:That and pushing agendas.
Speaker 3:That's Disney. Oh god, we'll get to that later.
Speaker 2:What DC did it first? I?
Speaker 1:I Only have one more. Mine, the sad thing is my number one literally is um goes right with um. It could be a Marvel thing to more supernatural films. I am so sick of supernatural being ignored and all these fucking universes oh.
Speaker 2:Hey, we had, we had an excellent swap thing TV show, but it was a fucking TV show.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know you want, I want you you. Oh, you want um. What the fuck ghostwriter? No, oh, you want um, go shit. All of fun, it's just. It just pisses me off. They don't give me no supernatural characters.
Speaker 2:Distracting but uh, that's the card that pulls everyone in is your pops. Every time they look at our podcast, your pops what pops?
Speaker 1:what happened? Did you make something you make a joke on in terms of?
Speaker 3:My pops. Gotta have my pops.
Speaker 2:Cuz he does I.
Speaker 1:Do. I'm sorry, I do, just wish we'd get a little more, so I don't need everything to be like just to sleep dark. I want to just like dark moving the worst way. Just come on, man, give me swamp.
Speaker 2:You're not wrong with that super natural.
Speaker 1:Constantine, give me extra again.
Speaker 2:I want a proper Constantine, though I do love Keanu Reeves. I want we did. I want a proper Lucifer. Oh, I love the Fox show, but that was just that was cops.
Speaker 1:We did get it. We did get a decent constantly. His name was Matt Ryan.
Speaker 3:You're actually not wrong If people could see, they do look a lot of like surprises yes, people could see our faces.
Speaker 1:Use some supernat. I think, I think we could use some supernat.
Speaker 3:You know what my problem is with your hopes for your. Your hope for this is that your wants are so much further down the road.
Speaker 2:Definitely. Well, I don't know when's the uh, the monsters movie. That, though, the monsters TV show? No, not that the one James Gunn is supposed to be doing the commandos, her, yeah, that's the first, that's the first problem that's coming out, that's being a TV show.
Speaker 1:Are you saying mine can't be like an immediate thing? Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:I know that I just if he doesn't touch on it there it kind of suck cuz one of his characters fucking Frank Stein kind of. It's like I don't know much about him, which is why I'm actually kind of excited for it.
Speaker 1:But my point is to me. I'm going back tomorrow. Marvel's right there where they need a jolt of something new and I think, ghost Rider blade time.
Speaker 3:Oh, they're giving you a job of something new, dean. What, what? We already talked about it. Wait, tom, up the the agendas and all they're giving it.
Speaker 2:That's not new.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's new to them, so wait, they're pushing some of it.
Speaker 1:I mean my only hope now, because it came up again, matt is not around to it, matt still. Matt is still not on the fucking train with me on this, but the rumor, the rumors of killing Murphy, is dr Doom popping up again.
Speaker 2:Why, why couldn't they just finish one thing and then move on?
Speaker 1:oh, kanks done, kanks done, they're done. They're moving on and I haven't decided if they're recasting them yet. Yeah, you know they could recast. I heard a thing if they recast kanks, get, get jambaleg, let them up.
Speaker 3:He's. He's already said no, he wants nothing to do with this.
Speaker 1:He doesn't want to know Disney but Disney had a fuck him over.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Why would you go back?
Speaker 2:they burn that bridge.
Speaker 1:Why is it? Because of Star Wars movie that fucking bad? Yeah, well, he was Kind of. He was positioned to be a Jedi and he became just a glorified side character.
Speaker 2:Well, didn't DC do the same fucking thing to cyborg, did I know?
Speaker 3:No, that was just.
Speaker 2:We didn't just we didn't just we didn't, it wasn't it wasn't it?
Speaker 3:Oh well, yeah, hey, we didn't get enough of that actor for me to have cared about the actor at that point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was like a guy who did a lot of stage work and shit. He wasn't even a big name yet.
Speaker 3:Yeah that was his breakout role, but it was supposed to be. To be fair, finn was John boy.
Speaker 2:It goes breakout role, so and you got cast actually been in other stuff though Yep, yep sins I. Mean, unlike cyborg actor. I don't think I've seen him in anything else, that's a look. Yeah.
Speaker 3:My number one I said was just a repeat of what my things you wish you got from the DCU. Why hope for the DCU? A plan? Have a goddamn plan.
Speaker 2:We got a plan from what it sounds like, especially our episode 3.5. Yeah, go back to that one. It sounds like he has an actual plan, which is why he decided get that year break, yep, and start with the OG.
Speaker 3:The most is that he had to release two movies that I wanted nothing to do with. He had to get two movies out the door that were that was money.
Speaker 2:He had nothing to do with it. I got a bottle of flash.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I had to release those two movies because the studio's already had them done.
Speaker 1:Isn't the guy who did flash directing brave in the bowl, I think?
Speaker 3:I hope it's not I thought, he was direct. I thought gun was directing brain hold. I know, I don't know, is gun direct Co-worker saw the beekeeper so I got that throat forward to Jason Statham.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I actually got that direction by David Ayer. So it's not like he does bad movies, it's just so. I didn't mean that bad studios getting there. I got.
Speaker 1:David Ayer did a movie called fury with Brad Pitt. Love that fucking move. Good war movie. Oh, I know, I think. I think we're in the rankings now.
Speaker 4:Here we go.
Speaker 2:Here Come on.
Speaker 1:This is the best part.
Speaker 2:We almost did it with the villains your idea, you start.
Speaker 1:We are starting at the bottom. It was a toss-up. This was a goddamn toss-up. I cared.
Speaker 3:I cared, dude, this might be a thumb everybody's 16 or 15.
Speaker 1:I'm mine, mine, my six mile old mine last, my worst DC movie it was close is one room and 84, baby my 16 one room and 84 Come on.
Speaker 2:Hey, they date. That was a fucking snooze fest. They fucked me over in that movie. I like cheetah.
Speaker 1:I do too. I.
Speaker 3:Like Pedro Pascal.
Speaker 1:He didn't have a, he didn't have his child to power him up.
Speaker 2:Well, he had his kid in there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he had a kid he had a kid and he got the whole whole reason for the powers which he didn't need him.
Speaker 2:His character itself was supposed to be reason for fucking the Justice League, but we never got that.
Speaker 1:You don't get me started on that suit armor coming out of the club.
Speaker 2:That was my. One of my biggest pet peeves is that. Where the fuck did they?
Speaker 1:come from and why some of cheetahs CGI was.
Speaker 2:That's what wolf that whole movie CGI.
Speaker 1:And I bring it's that bringing Steve Trevor back shit, which, what do you do? Rape theoretically rape.
Speaker 2:That man had no control of his body.
Speaker 3:Best part about that movie was bringing back the original one-room and actors.
Speaker 1:Yep, that's best part. The movie was boring. Actually did like that the movie was fucking boring.
Speaker 2:There's one of those months where I looked at the screen I'm like, oh, that's her in it and they gave us the invisible jet.
Speaker 3:It even as it.
Speaker 1:I wasn't expecting they released on max. That's how much of did um the Patty Jenkins direct that one too. Yeah, oh, poor Patty.
Speaker 3:And she's not doing very well for herself either right now. Her star, she was the one and that was supposed to do the there was no yeah no, she was supposed to do Star Wars Rogue Squadron. That got canceled.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, I can't believe we all had.
Speaker 3:that shocked me, I Well I thought I knew it was all gonna be bottom. Yeah, I guarantee you're my number 50. My number 15 is higher on your list. I Guarantee that.
Speaker 2:Well, since you believe his is higher, let's start with you then.
Speaker 3:Well, he can go with us 15.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my 15 is the original Justice, no yeah, that's a little higher on mine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just Part.
Speaker 1:When I first came out I thought it was an okay movie. I thought it was fine. But Snyder cut comes out made me think that was crap, not yeah, um, that's literally why you're not wrong, because we destroyed that movie. And no, let me tell you another reason why they. That was Snyder's movie and he had that whole issue with his, with his daughter's suicide controversy had a Couldn't finish he had to leave.
Speaker 1:He couldn't. They bring in weeding and that movie so fucking dirty and shit. They almost they took the ignored everything Snyder did. It wasn't his fault. He had to leave because he had a family crisis. And it's like you bring in weed and he destroys your fucking movie and it's just a dirty mood. A movie is still feeding me. I don't want it. Wolf looked bad. Stepan Wolf was bad it was.
Speaker 3:No, didn't take me give. Did give me a good meme, though. Didn't do, maybe in depth but you'll never be three billion worlds conquered.
Speaker 1:Exactly I agree.
Speaker 3:All right, you're, you're ready. You're ready for an argument? Dean, what?
Speaker 1:what's your number? You're 16, you're for 15. Yeah, where's the prayer? Okay, big dope, no, no. I'm waiting, I'm not saying nothing no, no, I ain't debate because I knew he'd think that my movies crowd. I don't think it's crap, I enjoyed the best person in the characters, Harley.
Speaker 3:No but no. No argument there.
Speaker 2:Hey, no, I love Bruce.
Speaker 1:Margot Robbie carries her fucking movies.
Speaker 3:Yes, and every side character in it sucks.
Speaker 1:I didn't think black mass sucked. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:I did. I did not like as much as I love you in a bigger I did not like this. Renee Montoya Montoya.
Speaker 1:Renee.
Speaker 2:See, whoever the little girls, this what they're a great side.
Speaker 1:I'm feeling very. I'm feeling very attacked. I'm not trying to attack you.
Speaker 2:I'm just asking a question how did you feel about their actual care?
Speaker 1:I thought they, I thought they were nothing great. But whatever, I didn't care, it's fucking Harley Quinn. I love Harley Quinn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and if the movie had in my point is, as the movie had been called Harley Quinn, it would have been better, but it's called birds of prey and all the characters that make up the birds of prey so it's a pretty emancipation of Harley Quinn, I believe was the entire title yes, but you called it the birds of prey movie and the characters that make it made up. The birds of prey Were overpowered by one character. If the movie had been called Harley Quinn and you didn't have any of them then there.
Speaker 1:I thought black and her is actually fine To be totally honest.
Speaker 2:She was actually you know what. To be fair, she was actually the one okay, aside from Harley piece of it.
Speaker 3:Hmm, but you? But you didn't get it. I don't think you got enough out of any of those characters for me to justify liking caring about them. They may have done fine in the role, but I didn't care about any of them by the end of the movie.
Speaker 2:I already knew. Did you want them to show up anywhere else? Huh, it's kind of the point.
Speaker 1:I think you get it just like not necessarily, but that didn't hurt my enjoyment for the movie because I love her so much Okay shut.
Speaker 2:That's always gonna be a bias. We can't beat it. We can't be her.
Speaker 1:She is one of those popular characters in all of DC. Margot Robbie is a goat. That why I'm. Someone tell me I'm wrong, like shit. Yes, I'm a little friend, I never throw a wrong at you.
Speaker 3:I didn't expect to be attacked.
Speaker 1:I fucking like that.
Speaker 3:Well, it's only an attack because we know you have it ranked higher because of her. Other than that, it wasn't as good. Not supposed to be an attack. I.
Speaker 1:Knew that one below, I thought it would be a different one. Actually, to be honest, I really thought Again, I don't have that much to actually.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying the movie is fucking the greatest thing ever, I'm my it was between that one and Well one, I will say next. Hmm, I mean I might as well suicide squad that was gonna be, there's more controversy right there. Just because of her for you, we know.
Speaker 3:Well, here's how my leg length differently go. I have one character I like in that movie. In all the other movies that we're gonna do Gus's later, I like more of the characters than I liked in that movie, other than the one I like more. Instead of just liking one, I like more characters. That's how my rank ends up going. That's why it's so more rated higher I.
Speaker 1:Just find it by it. I just had the look. I wanted to see if birds of prey was crap to people. It got positive reviews.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I've said my third, I guess. So that much.
Speaker 3:Second Suicide going to suicide. We haven't talked about it yet. It's a though we haven't talked about suicide squad enough. I mean, you just said it. You didn't talk about why it's that low the plot of the movie.
Speaker 2:Okay, they could have done so much better than here. We're gonna give you a team of people, and one of the people on a team is just gonna betray everyone With a bomb in her brain or the heart. No, she didn't have a bomb in her head.
Speaker 3:No, because it couldn't tire down long enough.
Speaker 2:It was just a heart, so loose plot points kind of get me sometimes. No, I'm usually one who goes into a movie just to enjoy it. Like Aquaman, he went in there. I don't care for this movie at all, ended up enjoying it.
Speaker 4:I'm just, I'm just.
Speaker 1:I'm just wondering that if anyone who listened to me like holy shit, that guy loves his hearty quinn.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure if they pay attention to all our podcasts they know yeah, you've brought her up before. She's like the pop that shows up all the time, although different variations.
Speaker 1:She's just I'm sorry, I know this is not what you guys are saying she's just so enjoyable and fun to me. She's fun, she's enjoyable, wait what?
Speaker 2:okay, never said, she wasn't Not in any there's work. There's time. We say we hate Harley Quinn. Margot Robbie is a shit actress. We never say that to you. She doesn't.
Speaker 4:I know.
Speaker 2:I got to work on my sarcasm. Apparently he was almost offended there.
Speaker 3:I heard it he's already on edge because he felt attacked. He's already on edge. Let's move on. Yeah, so on to the next one 14.
Speaker 1:My 14 is Shazam, Furiated Gods.
Speaker 3:Very so number two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my, yeah, my Shazam number two. Yep, it's just, it's not a bad spot for it. A very, very nothing inherently is boring, forgettable, forgettable, that's literally what that was.
Speaker 2:It did feel like a throwaway movie Uh, a very throwaway, especially after its end credit scene.
Speaker 1:The best thing is Wonder Woman coming back with that fucking song, the fucking revive, a best part of the movie.
Speaker 3:At least it got something. It's not in my bottom tier, but it's. That's surprising. It's in the next tier up.
Speaker 1:I'm just, I'm really wondering where. Well, we already had one gigantic, gigantic difference, but I'm curious where the rest of the differences are gonna be. But I prepared you for that. I said you know my, you know there's movies that are gonna be way higher. I prepared you. I don't know if you thought it was gonna be those.
Speaker 2:You're probably like I know to be honest, I don't really know where I am. Like I said originally, I just know.
Speaker 1:That's what I was gonna say. Oh, some of my. I can't necessarily say why I generally liked movies. It's enjoy some. I enjoy shit, different other people sometimes, but that's everyone.
Speaker 3:I don't know. Benefit of my 14 is we don't have to talk about it because we've already talked enough about Batman v Superman. So why I just like that movie. That's my number 14 had the wrong placement.
Speaker 2:Yeah you.
Speaker 3:You gave you gave us An arc that I didn't like, despite we know Batman not trusting Superman at points. But the way you made them all like each other was wrong with Martha, the way it was going with that. And then you give us Cringe, doomsday and how you brought them all out. It's just none of it made sense.
Speaker 2:No no, with a tease, a death stroke, that never happened.
Speaker 3:Or is that in Justice League? No, that was that movies. That was bad movies.
Speaker 2:Okay, hard to tell now.
Speaker 3:No, that wasn't Batman v Superman, because he gets arrested in Batman v Super Like soother gets arrested at Batman v Superman.
Speaker 2:So it is just just yeah, okay, 14 crap. I said you two are going. Oh, it's me. Before that I don't yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:My four. My 14 is Batman v Superman. You're 13, my 13.
Speaker 4:Yeah, wait let me see you go.
Speaker 1:You're both left newborn.
Speaker 4:This is my 13th. Yes, batman, v Superman it again pretty much the same, thing, matt said, it's only saving grace for Batman.
Speaker 1:He's, of course, been a flex Batman, but it had probably the greatest, the single greatest Batman fight scene ever that were how seen as phenomenal.
Speaker 3:And I know people that have a problem with it because Batman doesn't kill and half these people would be dead if they had these injuries.
Speaker 1:That is I'm sorry. I Loved it. That's not me. Most people love that scene a lot of them with.
Speaker 2:It's a good scene. Rids Punctured freaking mungs, yeah One dude got shot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's just to me. That is such a perfect again Ben Affleck being bigger, but that is just the perfect representation to me of how Batman fights. He's technical at times in there, but this one guy, he just basically chokeslams and just.
Speaker 2:I love the body slam. That man is a brawler at heart.
Speaker 1:People forget that, and he's getting hit too. He's just oh shit, oh, I have everyone, oh, oh, more in a fight scene than that one. Oh shit, oh, fuck, oh Great.
Speaker 3:My next one was Justice.
Speaker 1:League, your next little jaustice league. Yeah, jaustice, that's. That's how I call the jaustice.
Speaker 3:Like I said, it's better. It's higher on mine because I care more about the characters certain characters in the movie than I cared about in other ones, like I. That was, that was our introduction to mimoa. We love mimoa.
Speaker 1:Jason mimoa.
Speaker 3:I think that was our first reveal. Was that was our first reveal of j joner jamison as?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was that was nothing from it after that, yeah so.
Speaker 1:So what we're on next?
Speaker 3:Uh, unless you have anything else to contribute. But we'd be on.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I don't really 12 um, my 12 is the flash Tide. Same, yep, are we the same? We are the same. The only place we're gonna differ is these, the harley quinn movies. No one of them. We won't. Uh, I don't think, but um.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I can put I oh, we are.
Speaker 3:Huh, we are different.
Speaker 1:I I can put the flash. You know what's what I'm talking about, the one I think you'd like there that she was in oh no, I technically haven't said said the original suicide squad yet, so oh, whatever.
Speaker 3:So I was just, but yeah.
Speaker 2:I know what movie you're talking about? Yeah, so I screwed up your order.
Speaker 1:Yeah, flash Again was not as a big dump, not as much of a dumpster fires. I thought it was gonna be. The cgi was crap. That's obvious.
Speaker 2:You know what sold the movie nostalgia.
Speaker 1:Nostalgia did um michael keaton back and super girl, I'm sorry, and super girl is one of my favorite. She's probably my second favorite, second or third.
Speaker 3:She's in my top five for dc women speaking of this movie after watching people breaking down the cgi for the movie Long haired berry doesn't exist. What? Long haired berry well, long for long haired berry ellen, the guy that he when we got two esra millers. Long haired esra does not exist. Long haired esra is 100% cgi. The entire movie.
Speaker 2:Is that the one? It's like the, yeah, the really dark suit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the one that even built his own suit out of the fire suit, or whatever. The one that is Awkward, the entire movie. That berry doesn't actually exist. He's 100 cgi the entire movie.
Speaker 2:Why would they do that? Why didn't they have him doing too? It was a body double.
Speaker 3:Who was Ezra's body double? The entire movie they just CTI over his face. So when you got straight on Ezra, it looked good. Whenever he's sideways or anything else, you can tell it's CGI.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Hollywood practical effects cell.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but then you would have had to have extra Ezra play both roles, yeah, versus just shooting the movie Ezra.
Speaker 1:See a lot. Like Jay said, a lot of nostalgia made the movie a little bit better. I love Sasha KL the super. I thought that was one of the highlights of the movie. I could have said her and Keaton carried that movie?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you actually would have. I could have seen her coming back as Supergirl for her own series or whatever. Red and yep gone red. Yeah, I, as long as they did as long as they did the lanterns justice.
Speaker 1:It was funny that even Michael Shannon was confused about that movie. You want me to come back? I'm dead. Okay, he was so confused.
Speaker 2:I love those interviews. Yeah, a lot of people hated me. What's this about?
Speaker 1:Okay, are we on to next 11. For me. Yeah, I always start Probably high. Most people it's probably bottom of the barrel. But my next I have black Adam, no Matt didn't say it yet.
Speaker 3:If I didn't say it, it's higher on one.
Speaker 1:I like the great good action. To me, the rock always plays the rock. He did not play Teth Adam, he played the rock. But that's what he, dwayne Johnson, does he plays the rock. I love the justice society. I am a huge doctor of fate man and I thought Pierce Brosnan and fucking phenomenal we didn't get, 20 years on, like.
Speaker 3:Adam, did we Nope? No, wouldn't look right on him anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess not.
Speaker 3:You have technically black Adam has some variations of black Adam have hair and I don't think I would have bought the bald headed Dwayne pointy.
Speaker 1:I actually liked the actor's name, but I like Hawkman in the movie too. Yeah, I thought the justice society was very solid characters but, like Matt said earlier, making anti heroes, it's like you can't see Hawkman and Dr Fate as bad guys, but you kind of have good, but they're just trying to control black Adam.
Speaker 3:So it's why it's higher on mine is. I like all the characters, I like the fight scenes, I like the characters.
Speaker 2:I also didn't get the whole secret league thing, like they were just another Amanda Waller team kind of the, the young cyclone and Adam's master.
Speaker 1:We're great to Henry Winkler's cameo. Um, that was good. The villain was trash at the end of CDG, GI demon type. That was fucking terrible. I didn't like that. But and of course they, they give me Dr Fate and then they kill them off and heroic sacrifice.
Speaker 3:which fucking for the helmet to reappear somewhere.
Speaker 1:Yep Again, very I don't hate that movie like everyone else does. Now we're getting into a lot of the mid movies now that are not necessarily horrible.
Speaker 2:Well, let's see.
Speaker 3:We have run my tear break.
Speaker 2:Oh, we've almost hit eight.
Speaker 1:Oh I forgot. I forgot black Adam's post credit, dick teas. That had me so fucking hype and I got nothing. Black Adam, I hear your, I'm like it said. Wreak Avaly's got the Jerry curl.
Speaker 3:I felt the same way about that as I did when I was like. I asked Jay, why are you can talk to fish? There's too much energy in the big dick energy.
Speaker 1:I'll leave. Just wasted that black and me, the one only thing that didn't sit right with me there, superman, why are you coming at a man? The wallers call Get the fuck out of here, bro. You're not her fucking lap dog, god. That pissed me off a little bit, but my number 11 suicide squad. Not as controversial as I thought, because you have that higher and I thought you would. I like, I expected that one to be the trash one, that birds of prey, to be honest, but like.
Speaker 3:I said I told you my definite I like more characters in this movie. I didn't mind Will Smith's dead shot, even though I wouldn't have cast him that way. Okay, but I bought it.
Speaker 2:He. Would you have cast him as just?
Speaker 3:as a little side note, who would I have cast Will Smith as? Yes, I'd have to think about it. I wouldn't have cast him as dead shot. Bring it back as that end notes yeah, no that's what I can if I'm the point.
Speaker 1:That surprises me. That one's, I know I thought that was going to be your trash one. I did not expect birds of prey because, again, that one people most people didn't like people like birds of prey.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm surprised. Well, like I said, the only person I care about in birds of prey is Harley. Yeah, this one has Harley. Gives me Will Smith when actually people liked him. Yeah, jai Courtney was fun as Captain Boomerang, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was actually mad that they killed him off in the next.
Speaker 3:Don't have to talk. I used to experience of Amanda Waller.
Speaker 2:Joe Kidamon. She actually kills that role. Yeah, joe, kidamon Joe.
Speaker 1:Kidamon, as Rick Flagg is underrated as hell yeah.
Speaker 3:It's like but see, we got more characters I like in the movie. That's why.
Speaker 1:I don't really like it. Even D'Oli is a croc.
Speaker 3:Yeah, even D'Oli, I have more issues with Killer Croc just based off the little look, but it was practical and I'll give them credit.
Speaker 1:Killer Croc. Hey, killer Croc, drop two banger lines in that movie. One, he's ugly, what you talking about? Shodi, I'm beautiful, killed me. And also this guy. The BET it is self I give them credit for the practical effects, but didn't the big who he did? Killer Croc is bigger, Didn't the big name got? Who played him, Adam Wallay? Didn't the big name Adam Wallay?
Speaker 3:But he's a bigger character in most comic books. I'm beautiful Shodi.
Speaker 2:He's supposed to be.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right. What we got out of his character was why am I feeling bad? Why am I forgetting Batman Returns Croc, where he's just a?
Speaker 1:mutated human being. That is a point I will agree with. If I had to pick between which cast of characters I like better in Suicide Squad and Birds of Prey, it would be Suicide Squad. I told you, Birds of Prey is a weird movie to me because I don't know why I liked it so much.
Speaker 4:I can say Harley Quinn.
Speaker 1:I can, but I there's, I don't know.
Speaker 4:I like the actress that played Katana.
Speaker 2:You loved Black Mask too.
Speaker 1:I thought me and Matt disagree there, but I thought he Ian McGregor.
Speaker 3:I like, I like Ian McGregor. I did not like it, you didn't hate it though, either though.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Zazz threw me off.
Speaker 1:Oh, cause the whole gay undertone and shit yeah. I never thought of Zazz that way and I'm sorry that one thing though Black Mask didn't even really wear his mask much of the movie he wore it. He wore it for my favorite. When he gets out of a car he flips up. You know me, I like that the flash bro.
Speaker 3:I'll put this on record are my co-worker, who we all, who we know is who we know. Who hates Spider-Man? Oh, that's son of a bitch. Yep, his, his favorite Zazz is the one from Gotham. He loves the guy that plays Zazz in Gotham.
Speaker 2:That's not a bad choice. Not bad Because he did do the character character justice. He actually got a character arc in that show which is hard to do with Zazz.
Speaker 1:No, Gotham. Gotham also gave us Cameron Monaghan. Oh damn it, there's his name. Let him go be a Jedi.
Speaker 2:He wants his poncho. I actually prefer him in that I would like to see him as a live action version of himself.
Speaker 1:He wants his poncho. Just give him his poncho.
Speaker 2:Because the whole other universe thing that you don't like so much.
Speaker 3:Getting Katana. I love the action play of Katana because she's in the boys Yep, the random Scotty's would throw in, because he's become a bigger name since that movie too.
Speaker 1:So it's like that, that cast has a lot of talent in it. The elephant in the room for that movie, jared Le, who I don't think was used enough. That is my issue, I just don't like it.
Speaker 2:His character didn't get justice.
Speaker 3:What he was used as was a whiny little bitch, and I couldn't buy it he.
Speaker 1:Jared, no see, I had my see. Everyone just has issues with his more modern gangbanger.
Speaker 3:Look and shit, but it's like Joker's had tattoos and shit before You're not but I didn't buy the gold teeth.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Wasn't buying the gold teeth and he was just whining the entire goddamn movie, which is not something you did for Harley.
Speaker 1:Well, traditionally he did. No, that was one issue, not a lot. He got along. Joker's never cared about Harley at all. He just uses her.
Speaker 3:He cared about her in that one which was portrayed when he met her in Arkham Asylum, the only time he cares for Harley is when somebody else is going after her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why birds of prey.
Speaker 3:I'll give birds of prey credit on that one. At least they made Joker not give a shit about her.
Speaker 1:I'm done with you. I mean let oh. I mean the trailer got me hyped, though, because let oh said the line I'm not going to kill you, I'm just going to hurt you. Really, really bad. I mean it. The trailer had people intrigued about let oh's Joker, even though other than the gold teeth I didn't buy was buying the whole damaged tattoo on his forehead was a little like I know you're damaged, you don't got to fucking advertise it.
Speaker 1:But yeah, again, he will be mentioned later because he's a part of one of my favorite scenes in the DC universe. Matt's. Well, there it is. You don't you know? Sniper cut 10.
Speaker 2:Okay so we are over, all right, so wait. No, is it when we get to eight is?
Speaker 3:halfway through. Yeah, let's see, that's easy. Nine and eight is half way through.
Speaker 1:What are we at 10? Yes, my 10 is just um. She's out the original show Sam, much higher on mine. I I can't vibe with as much. I don't like Suzanne that much as a character. I want him. I never read as much as I am growing up and shit, so it was harder for me. I love Zachary Levi's just am. I will defend that. That I will defend.
Speaker 2:I thought my favorite comic books ever from to them is Shazam versus Superman. We have um Miss Marvel. Yeah, miss Marvel. She was that before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was ever. Uh, Kamala Khan is Marvel yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I'm talking about, uh, his big sister, who ends up becoming yeah, mary. Mary, Mary.
Speaker 3:Marvel.
Speaker 1:There we go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's her name. Now I like the story of it. I like versus super girl, yeah, so that that whole dynamic was awesome in the comic.
Speaker 1:I like the aspect of how a family can be a family even if you're not blood related. I liked that was the one of the best points of Shazam and again it could be. When I think of the stuff that's above it I mean it's close. These next ones are all very, very close. I had to really kind of but I went to not vibing with Shazam as much. But, like I said, I liked Zachary Levi in the role, though that was one of my like. I see these are movies.
Speaker 2:I like he's had me, since he was a nerd.
Speaker 3:Mine 10. My 10 is Shazam too.
Speaker 1:There's a little bit of a difference. That one's a little. He has that one a little higher than me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, why am I? Am I Shazam ones higher than yours? But for the points, it's like I still like enough of the characters where I didn't feel bad about it, but the villains were less impactful. Yeah, yeah, remember, I'm also ranking Shazam higher because of Mark Strong as the villain.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, definitely should have had more yellow lantern time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 4:Number nine.
Speaker 1:Numbers nine. Here we go. Number nine Aquaman 2, the Lost Kingdom. Number nine, aquaman 2.
Speaker 3:I didn't say coming home.
Speaker 1:I didn't. I thought that was a fair spot. I was like I liked it slightly more than Shazam and slightly under the one above it. I was like, right there, there it goes yeah.
Speaker 3:You're gonna have. You're gonna have a feel awkward because of what my number eight is. Oh boy, it wasn't. It's very much middle of the tier. That's where I felt it and that's where it's placed.
Speaker 1:It wasn't a bad movie. I liked Ornn's character arc.
Speaker 2:I could literally put these last aside from one, because I've just been waiting forever. The last few movies that have come out, that way.
Speaker 3:You're gonna notice a trend. Most of my movies are the most recent movies that have come out Shazam 2, Aquaman 2. Guess what the next two movies are?
Speaker 1:You didn't say Flash yet, did you?
Speaker 3:I said Flash was my number 12. Okay, you did say Okay. So he's got Blue Beetle coming up. I got Blue Beetle and Black Atom somewhere in the next couple movies.
Speaker 1:Wow, I can't believe. No, I thought I'd have Black Atom the highest. I'm surprised, but that was all. Dr Fate carrying a lot of that, so we are on nine.
Speaker 3:We are on eight.
Speaker 2:Eight, we're on eight, we've reached our. Oh, we're going to my eight.
Speaker 1:More than half we were the same. Yeah, my eight is Blue Beetle.
Speaker 3:My number eight is Black Atom. Okay, blue Beetle, I'll go into it. My seven is Blue Beetle. My eight is Black Atom. That is my next two movies, so we'll talk.
Speaker 2:I'm biased when it comes to Blue Beetle, so I can't really say Jack Squad, I've been waiting for him as a character on screen forever.
Speaker 1:I don't think the movie was phenomenal? By any means Nope, but it was enjoyable that they finally did something a little smaller scale and just focused on one thing and not the whole entire fucking universe. They literally said Batman and Superman, like one time in the movie. It was their own thing.
Speaker 3:I can literally that's what helped it?
Speaker 2:Because he was a fan.
Speaker 3:I can literally interchange seven, eight, nine, ten for Blue Beetle, Black Atom, Aquaman 2, and Xam2 at any given day. That's my middle tier. I can interchange how I feel about these any guy.
Speaker 2:I was also not expecting to like George Lopez again. The taco.
Speaker 3:Or that truck. Batman's a fascist. Batman's a fascist.
Speaker 2:And the whole. He was funny to me.
Speaker 1:That's why I understood Me being also being a fan of capturing cultures. I like how they captured Latino culture in that fucking. That was great. I loved it. And the cherry on top was they played Kickstart in my Heart by Motley Crue in the fucking action scene. I'm like, hahahaha, you're rivaling, sweet Note, not rivaling, because Sweet Child of Mine and Love and Thunder is in the levels of God tier for me.
Speaker 2:But that's because the kid has taste in music, hahaha.
Speaker 1:But no Blue Beetle and I. It's higher because I like Blue Beetle a lot more than I thought. I thought I'd hate that fucking thing. I thought I'd be in there napping, but it was a good movie. It was a solid movie. I liked the suit. I liked the suit. Cgi, the design on the suit was cool too, very crisp. I liked it. One of my bigger surprises of DC was actually Blue Beetle.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and we're hoped to get more of him.
Speaker 1:Actor was good. He played Jaime.
Speaker 3:Jaime, you're number seven, and then we're going to go in trade six.
Speaker 1:Did you watch Cobra?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I did not my number seven he does great in both.
Speaker 1:My number seven is the original Aquaman.
Speaker 3:Okay, mine's higher, but we're getting new work within a couple. Okay, we're getting hot. We're getting hot, but it's still within realm of things.
Speaker 2:I have a feeling like this Enjoying from four up is going to be.
Speaker 1:Enjoyable movie.
Speaker 3:Again. Jason Momoa just really I know what his top three is. I just don't know the order we're working out. Our lists were going to be different until we got to the top three and then things were going to start to get done Like are we going to be the same? I mean he's still talking about.
Speaker 1:I liked Ornn as the villain Patrick. We already talked about that. He was one of the better villains the DC movies gave us.
Speaker 2:We literally put him at what two.
Speaker 3:Two or three, depending on how you felt.
Speaker 2:So we tied him with Mark Strong. And I can't remember his fucking villain's name, which pissed me off.
Speaker 3:As small as the role was Doctor or something. Yeah, savannah, doctor, savannah.
Speaker 1:As small as the role was Because I have bias towards the actor. As small as the role was, I loved Tamron Morrison as Daddy Curry. I loved it. It's Bulba Like sorry, I got wicked bias towards him because it's Bulba Fett. So I'm like, hey, and he almost killed him, but they didn't. They didn't have the balls to kill him. Don't you do it.
Speaker 3:Twice. No, just stick him in the back to paint. Yeah, stick him in the back to paint. Even though when I first see him, when he had that Guinness in the Aquaman 2, I said like, like Ben, that was a joke I didn't get to make during what we were talking about in the movie. How much of this movie is goddamn fucking fast on the furious? Jason Momoa in both Aspects of family. The first drop. Corona for Guinness, Dude, dude dude Like a banta.
Speaker 2:Like a banta. Yeah, we could have said that line when they hopped on the set of Pete things I like.
Speaker 1:Um, I like James Wan also. James Wan is such a versatile director. He can do comic films and he's James Wan is known for horror. He did the Conjuring movies, which I love. He did the original Saw, which is, in my Might, be in my top 10 movies of all time.
Speaker 2:So you're saying he probably would be a good fit to put your supernatural aspect.
Speaker 1:Yeah, give me James Wan for Just a League Dark. Please give me that Holy shit.
Speaker 3:Who directed the first uh?
Speaker 2:Didn't James Wan do the Swamp Thing TV show? Maybe, I was gonna say who directed the Constantine movie Keanu. Who did? Uh, I'll look it up. You guys keep discussing.
Speaker 3:Well, my number seven was Blue.
Speaker 2:Beetle, I'm the one without a list, remember, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, so my number seven was Blue Beetle, so it's your six.
Speaker 1:My six yeah. So you want Constantine, my six is Suicide Squad the one with um the Suicide Squad, no, not the.
Speaker 4:Suicide Squad. Oh, the regular Suicide Squad.
Speaker 1:The first one would air Again, I liked all the characters in that movie except for the throwaway ones. They kind of killed it right away, but I like I had so much fun with that movie Again. To take Venom, for example I'll never say the Venom movie is good, a great like cinematic masterpiece or anything. Okay, that makes sense. I'll never say it's as, but it's still enjoyable. If I can enjoy a movie, it's going to be higher on my list, Like pretty what. Who directs it?
Speaker 2:So for the original Constantine with Keanu Reeves, francis Lawrence, and he's doing the Hunger Games movies. Yeah, okay, he did Red Sparrow.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 2:He's doing I Am Legend and Constantine 2. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I forgot. They're trying to get a second one of the Keanu's Off the Ground.
Speaker 3:But that's been in development for a while, yeah.
Speaker 1:Again, it's kind of the same things. Matt said Mar-Marabi, of course, but I love the characters. I wish they would have done a better villain. I think a villain could have propelled that movie better and Warner Bros not fucking with it.
Speaker 2:But that is about it right there.
Speaker 3:Oh, we didn't even talk about our favorite character. The best character in the. Another character was getting what's his name Diablo. Diablo was great. Yeah, I like.
Speaker 1:Diablo. Diablo was fucking great and I'm sorry, just like now I tend to lean more Suicide Squad for this type of like band. I love Band of Misfit movies, band of Misfit characters that are as hardly quins huge, but they like Guardians and they make them really cool and shit. I love them. I prefer Suicide Squad tech a little bit. The like Guardians, like characters, wise, but still like that Guardians formula of Misfit adventures and shit. I like that. That's very has, very enjoyable to me.
Speaker 3:All right, you're ready for my number six and it's gonna probably gonna be divisive to you again.
Speaker 1:Your number six yeah.
Speaker 3:Because you it'll give you an indication what movies that you have lower that are in front of it. I have Snyder cut at six.
Speaker 1:Okay, that don't hurt me as much.
Speaker 3:I thought it was gonna be another one, but it. The reason it gets downgraded is because it was a re-release of a movie from the director that downgrades it to me. All the Easter eggs that you can't capitalize on now. Because of what? Because Snyder's gone. Yeah, giving us Martian Manhunter doesn't get payoffs.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Giving us the Green Lantern Corps, never getting a pay off.
Speaker 2:I know that is wrong. James Wan was a producer for the Swan thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was gonna say I think he produced it.
Speaker 2:The director attached to the series was Len Wiseman.
Speaker 3:Sounds familiar.
Speaker 1:Okay, now are we going to the next.
Speaker 3:Yeah, number five.
Speaker 1:My number. Oh, here we go. My five is Wonder Woman, the original Wonder.
Speaker 3:Woman. Okay, so I don't know your top three in that way. So which one? Oh, god damn it. Dean what, I know it. I hate you what.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, I am the king of controversy.
Speaker 2:What yeah, the director that did Swan thing you definitely would have, actually. Yeah underworld.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean okay, I gotta get a Wonder Woman. Sorry, my bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, stop doing that. I loved Gal. I wasn't keen on Gal Gadot being a Wonder Woman at first.
Speaker 3:She doesn't have the look.
Speaker 1:She doesn't. She's very slender.
Speaker 2:You gotta have a little beef and, paul, you need a little beef. Tall works for Amazon.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, death by smoothing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it makes her a leaner because she's not a big girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but when you saw the movie she was actually great. Yeah, I was like that is a Wonder Woman. That was fucking phenomenal. Casting. Chris Pine is great. I love Chris Pine and almost everything he's in. I liked the World War II, the World War I or II. What war was it? Ii, world War II setting. I love World War II setting.
Speaker 3:Ares was a passable villain Plains what they weren't biplanes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had to think about that one.
Speaker 1:Ares was a passable villain when he had his armor on.
Speaker 3:No, that's the Joe War. I Trench warfare.
Speaker 1:Major trench warfare. Yeah, so I was gonna say I think it was I, because it was trench warfare. Yeah, because he ran across the trench, he did fly a biplane.
Speaker 3:And I only remember that because the running joke was like oh so you fought in World War I, but you didn't do anything while we were on. That was the running joke.
Speaker 2:When it came to 84. Yeah, she didn't do anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she skipped over it because nobody was there to force her to do it.
Speaker 2:She defeated the God of War and was like, oh yeah, they can handle it.
Speaker 1:It was a solid fight scene at the end too. Like I said, when Ares put his armor on I was like oh yeah, but he just looked weird because he was all CDI.
Speaker 2:And he was up. The other issue was the dark.
Speaker 3:He was an old man, he was a professor looping.
Speaker 1:I can't see what the hey? I got my Harry Potter reference in.
Speaker 2:I got it in. She's gonna come somewhere. Don't tell your friends, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna tell you right now the list. There'll probably be two lists for Harry Potter ranking all the movies, which would be as eight, so won't be that bad and top 10 characters. That will probably be the list for Harry Potter characters unintentionally. I was even thinking about it and wonder what gate wonder one gave me that fucking guitar riff. I love it, fucking love it. Great theme songs.
Speaker 2:Batman got one, wonder woman got one. Did Superman theme? I don't think so.
Speaker 3:No, he does he does? It's very subtle. I know what it is, but I don't know what it's referencing.
Speaker 2:There is one, the original Superman TV show probably.
Speaker 3:That's for watching the movie and to tell you wouldn't be hard to find Anything else for five.
Speaker 1:Not really I covered everything because, like I said these, are all movies that I really liked. My number five is just that. That's no. Again, I don't I expect it to be higher, but she's in all I had to say I'm too right. I could almost I could tell where me and Matt's right. I'm fine.
Speaker 3:I love the family dynamic. True, I love most of the characters. That dynamic was funny. Got a little bit more odd for two, which is why I didn't pay off.
Speaker 2:The only thing I didn't like about it was throwing the entire family having powers at the end.
Speaker 1:That was the kind of waited, yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 2:I guess at that point we didn't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but at that point the DC was already looking bad on its back end, so it's like they're just trying to get everything that could into movie four.
Speaker 1:My number here. There comes the cons, here comes the controversy. Right now, you know. My number four is it's a bird's a prey, a movie that I enjoyed more than the people in this room, I know your top two.
Speaker 3:I don't remember, I don't remember what movie.
Speaker 2:I enjoyed more than birds of prey also have a decent soundtrack to decent sounds. It was very street level and like grittier and I liked a lot of the fights.
Speaker 1:The John Wick guys did the fight scenes for that A lot of them. They had a lot of John Wick guys come in and do fight scenes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they were fighting in a fun house and they didn't make use of the fun house.
Speaker 2:I can't agree or disagree with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought that was cool. Like I said, it's a weird movie.
Speaker 2:It's a strange movie that I for some reason liked and you know what I gotta do I actually have to rewatch the movie again. You and McGurr's wife, I think, as far as that movie goes, I've only seen it twice.
Speaker 1:I rewatched it quite a bit to remember that.
Speaker 2:The movies of mine.
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to think of, because I did not expect that movie to get what Matt was more, but you didn't, jay was kind of into. I didn't expect the movie to get trapped Well, even when we like it was to see the movie.
Speaker 2:I don't think I was. I've seen that movie with Levi oh that was that one of those.
Speaker 1:That was a COVID movie. It was squeaked out during the COVID times.
Speaker 3:God damn you 2020. My number four is Aquaman. Okay, they were too long.
Speaker 1:Okay, so Birds of Prey is the only one we're obnoxiously different on Like obnoxious, I'm talking completely opposite ends of the spectrums of opinions on the movie. That's the only one.
Speaker 2:Well, that was your four.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and it was ours 15.
Speaker 1:It's a big discrepancy, it's okay, I love you. It's okay. We didn't even say we didn't love her. I love you.
Speaker 4:I'm just talking shit being funny now.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 3:Number three. My number three I don't know what move. I think I know what you're talking to are. I don't know what your number three is. My number three is a Snyder Cut. Okay, so that's the one I was missing.
Speaker 2:Let me guess, one of your favorite scene is the no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I will get onto that one, because that, that, that's a cream. I almost cream my pants with that dialogue, but I did. But it filled out the movie of Justice League. It gave us, it was Snyder's vision. It gave us more more reasoning behind each.
Speaker 2:I didn't need the scene.
Speaker 1:I didn't need to see the lowest lane crying in the bathtub for five minutes. I didn't need that, but that happened. I waited to discuss, since I liked the Snyder Cut more with a lot of its development I have a joke there too. Damn it. With a lot of its development, of its. There was more development.
Speaker 2:It's not the Joker looking the top.
Speaker 1:There was more development for the care of my list. There was more development for the character in Snyder Cut. To me it was a lot longer movie. They um. I didn't want to talk about Justice League as much because this, to me, is the far superior movie.
Speaker 2:What did we reach for? Snyder Cut four hours. It was over three.
Speaker 4:How long was that was over?
Speaker 1:three or four hours.
Speaker 4:What.
Speaker 2:I think it was. It was a justified four hours, which is as far as I remember. Didn't he want to do a two parter?
Speaker 3:Kind of, and it could have been easy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it did contain two, and even though this one of the scenes was in the original Justice League, I waited till now to talk to it. Talk about it, one of my favorite scenes in all of these universes when Superman wakes up and turns every single one of them into fodder bitches.
Speaker 3:Oh, we didn't bring up CGI mustache. I'm sorry. In the original when.
Speaker 2:Wonder.
Speaker 3:Woman. I can't even remember if they covered that up better in the Snyder Cut.
Speaker 1:When Wonder Woman throws that lasso and he's just plows through it, fuck you. When he follows Flash and shoulder checks him, fuck you, aquaman. He's like get the fuck away from me. Fuck you Batman.
Speaker 2:No, no Batman.
Speaker 1:Tell me, do you bleed? I'm like this is who Superman is. Everyone is fodder to him. This is such a great scene.
Speaker 3:Levi hated it and gave us the black suit.
Speaker 2:No, actually I forgot.
Speaker 4:I forgot.
Speaker 1:He headbutted Wonder Woman into fucking concrete. Oh, and when he's carrying the building up that movie. Look how strong Superman is when Flash is saving people. One of the times Superman is carrying a building and he smiles at him when he flops behind him.
Speaker 3:The one thing I probably another thing I probably didn't like about the Snyder Cut was just how OP Superman was. That entire movie.
Speaker 1:He came in and just fodderized.
Speaker 3:Steppenwolf, yeah, just standing right in front of the Scythe and it's like nope.
Speaker 2:But it's accurate.
Speaker 1:Just knowing Superman's powers did offset that for me, I mean current comic book wise Superman has a Susanone out, he can make a Susanone.
Speaker 2:All right. I somehow knew that was going to come up, that was your number three, right.
Speaker 1:Oh, I forgot to mention because I'm sorry, this has to be mentioned the nightmare sequence at the end.
Speaker 2:How much are we going to go there Just?
Speaker 1:for your Leto. I'm sorry when Batman's just sitting there and you hear that little laugh off in the distance. They called Leto with ha ha ha, that's slow.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Nobody paid attention to some of the lines.
Speaker 4:Leto said no.
Speaker 1:That's when he said, when Bruce talked about how he killed his family and stuff. When Leto said who sends a boy wonder to do a man's job? Me, oh fuck, that's gold writing.
Speaker 2:He delivered it better than fucking Eisenberg or what the hell, what?
Speaker 1:do you mean. What do you mean? What do you mean Bruce?
Speaker 2:Hey, they were equal villains. Oh, okay, I got a chuckle out of Lex Luthor and Joker right next to each other. People love the Joker more, for sure.
Speaker 1:I got an equal terms. I got a chuckle out of oh come on, Bruce, I can't die. If I'm not here, who's going to give you a reach around? I got that.
Speaker 2:I swear to God you wanted to have Bruce holding his head in a lantern.
Speaker 3:I'm scared of the fanfic. He married.
Speaker 1:It's who Joker is. Joker is I like that letter.
Speaker 4:I've seen his TikTok. Oh my god.
Speaker 2:Oh and then why that also goes with follows on.
Speaker 1:Instagram, two things. Then Bruce killed Joker with his line of when I held Harley Quinn in my arm, she told me to kill you and then make it slow. Great fucking line. And of course, when he I'll give you my card, it's the Joker card. I love that scene. It's just it's let all got a little bit redemption to actually be the Joker. I didn't care about the Suicide Squad version, but it was nice to me. I like that. I like that scene.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, I think we're going to have the same number one and number two. We just don't know the order, because my number three is Wonder Woman. Okay, and I know what two movies you haven't said. And you know what two movies I haven't said.
Speaker 2:That was a big attention. I should have been crossing off or whatever.
Speaker 3:My number two is Wonder Woman. You enjoyed it more than you thought you would because of your number two is Wonder Woman or three.
Speaker 1:Three. I was confused yeah.
Speaker 2:That one definitely sent you for a loop. You weren't expecting it to be the only thing off was the appearance of Wonder Woman.
Speaker 3:I personally would have loved to have seen Gina Carano do it, because I think she had to look for it, but that was my fan casting at work. But I can't be mad at what Gail gave us.
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh no.
Speaker 3:I just downgraded it because of the villain, because he looked awkward in a lot of that fight for Aries. So number two.
Speaker 2:Wait, wasn't that Gary? Gary Old, no, no, that one who was playing him again? Who?
Speaker 3:Okay, professor Lupin is not serious black, there we go.
Speaker 2:I don't know where my brain went.
Speaker 3:I know where your brain got twisted yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know why. My okay, we're on my number two. My number two is the Suicide Squad.
Speaker 3:We are flipped.
Speaker 2:I need to get my head examined like this my one and two are very, very close.
Speaker 1:It is such a slim margin but I was like, okay, I'm going to do this. There is one movie I hold up out of Pedestal and we know what number one is, but Suicide Squad. It was just. It was what? The? It was a rated R version of Suicide Squad and it was fucking phenomenal, and that is why it's number one for me. It was fucking phenomenal. It was rated, it was Harley Quinn, was Harley Quinn?
Speaker 2:I got one word for you.
Speaker 1:What Underwear, oh God, when Harley Beach.
Speaker 3:Fulledix Hand King Shark.
Speaker 1:The characters are fucking great. Oh, you were the one that made this joke when Harley Quinn was having her dream sequence. I guess I got to say goodbye to you and that monster in your pants.
Speaker 3:You were the one that made that this is where I have hope for Quip. She kills you, you love her, but she kills you, but this entire movie is the reason why I have hope for James Gunn, with the DC Quip after Quip.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and it doesn't kill the plot. I knew him.
Speaker 1:I wasn't. I knew this would be in top two. I'm surprised my other, my one, is in top two for Matt, but I enjoyed the movie.
Speaker 2:You know the only thing that sucks for me about that movie. Starro is supposed to be this huge villain that even the Justice League has to come into fight. Huh, justice League wasn't available.
Speaker 1:Um what the Um Peacemaker was fucking great, even though I couldn't see the motherfucker that I was playing.
Speaker 3:Amanda Waller wasn't conscious to call him in.
Speaker 1:Did anyone else, did you. That makes more sense now that you say it. I'm just wondering if anyone else saw the guy that played Peacemaker, because I didn't see nothing. Did you see him? I just saw clothes walking around. I'll never let that joke die.
Speaker 3:Of course we saw him.
Speaker 1:His helmet was too shiny, but John Cena did so. Oh my God, that just translates over to how great the Peacemaker show was. But um, I'm sorry that line Silky, silky, fuck you, fake silky.
Speaker 2:Fake silky. It was fake silky.
Speaker 1:That line, that line I care about freedom. I don't care how many men, women and children. I got to kill to get it.
Speaker 3:I worship freedom with all my heart.
Speaker 2:What, what, what, what Polka Dot.
Speaker 3:Man was great. I love Pokedots.
Speaker 1:He had mommy issues.
Speaker 2:How did he get us to care about Pokedots?
Speaker 3:I know I mean literally when Iderzalba was calling out what does he do? Shoot Pokedots at people. And nobody corrected him. It's like he shoots Pokedots at people. Okay, we're going to talk about this one a lot.
Speaker 1:But Jay should be at. They killed Pete Davidson early on. You should be happy about that. You hate Pete. He hates Pete Davidson. I don't hate him.
Speaker 2:I just I don't vibe with his comedy. He was Maraj. They're like damn it.
Speaker 1:You know me and Maraj.
Speaker 2:You're like, I didn't hate that. What's sad, though, is that some stuff he does I do vibe with, like the fucking parody song, for I'm Just Ken.
Speaker 1:I'm on drugs.
Speaker 2:I'm on drugs. Yeah, when he does stuff like that, I like it. Hey, man, they didn't Gun, didn't have to. You did say it, maraj, and Transformers. That worked for me.
Speaker 1:They didn't have to kill off my boy, captain Boomerang, in the opening 10 minutes though.
Speaker 3:He didn't want to be in the movie anymore. I don't want to be in it. He was done. I was sad about that, but they let Weasel survive. She hardly called him Boomer.
Speaker 1:Boomer, but they let Weasel survive. They let Weasel survive, why?
Speaker 2:The throwaway villain TDK, tdk, I think.
Speaker 3:TDK's.
Speaker 2:That's kind of sad too.
Speaker 1:I love how and I'm sorry, kink Shark is just the hand and Sylvester is still alone did with Kink Shark.
Speaker 3:Nom-noms, nom-noms.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry. When he wanted, when he seemed to little friends in the aquarium, and then they started attacking him.
Speaker 2:What a hurt man Kind of makes me want Gun to bring Grotten.
Speaker 1:One of my favorite scenes. I'd watch it. One of my favorite scenes in the DCEU when they're eradicating the camp. These were our friends.
Speaker 2:The human supremacist. Yeah, what the hell is this? We're here to meet them.
Speaker 1:We're here to meet them. Peacemaker and sports master, whatever, bloodshot, bloodshot, bloodsport.
Speaker 3:Bloodsport, bloodsport, bloodsport Cause.
Speaker 1:I can. Bloodsport word. Huh, and I'm sorry, John. Come on, John Cena running up in his tidy white. He's this forever legendary.
Speaker 3:Yup, that's a joke now I shoot tiny ear bullets in the Moracare holes and then the Gatorzo kills him with a tiny ear bullet.
Speaker 1:Ratcatcher 2 is great. Yeah, gatorzo, that's a thing.
Speaker 2:I'm playing her character too. What the hell.
Speaker 3:Who was her dad?
Speaker 2:Ratcatcher 1.
Speaker 3:Who played him who?
Speaker 2:played him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do never. I forget Taika Watiti.
Speaker 4:Taika, taika.
Speaker 3:Watiti. Yeah, taika Watiti was the dad. I've rewatched it so I don't that movie's fresh in my head.
Speaker 1:I haven't watched that in a while. Let's do it for a rewatch. I may be taking this list home.
Speaker 3:But Watch him in your order, not in my order.
Speaker 2:I might as well have a compiled list of both your orders.
Speaker 1:I like, um, I also. Let's see, I thought this one was going to be on top of this one. I liked at the end when they when they said fuck Waller, let's be heroes, come on, that's fine.
Speaker 3:The reason it's not reason why man of Steel and the Suicide Squad are flipped for me is because I had more issues with man of Steel than I did with Justice League or the Suicide Squad Too many easy movies I had less problems with the men.
Speaker 1:There's a day there's a day um Suicides could could be my one.
Speaker 3:There's probably a day it could be, but the most unbelievable part of the Suicide Squad was that Star-O was killed by a bunch of rats. That was the bit my biggest problem with the movie.
Speaker 1:There was that many rats on that island dog.
Speaker 3:I believe that Cult of Maltese is kind of a shithole, but that was the most unbelievable part of that movie.
Speaker 2:Star-O. In itself, the way he was portrayed and taking over people could have been a lot Like. There are supposed to be more metas in the DC universe, which is another thing that's not underutilized.
Speaker 1:Oh, what about? Um, the stupid conference? Again small lines, but the conference Starfished. Starfish is also another name for a butthole.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's just you being you. I'm just gonna rewatch it.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna rewatch it now, because that movie just Does the slow-mo walk into the in the rain, as they set up, and just then, just?
Speaker 1:I really couldn't have in that fucking dudes stick the whole fucking movie. Take it. What else Was there? Was there anything else? Was there anything no?
Speaker 3:it's my number one. I love that movie.
Speaker 2:And you're number one, we know.
Speaker 1:My number one is the great Henry Cavill man Steve.
Speaker 3:I just have more problems with that movie and it's still my number two, but I just have more problems with it than I'd adjust, henry.
Speaker 1:Cavill. I'm and I'd mean no disrespect to Christopher Reeve, but Henry Cavill is Superman. To me, the super suit's an adjusting to the atmosphere.
Speaker 2:That's probably my one big thing. So like they're the same race as Superman. What the hell is with? The Very true, they're adjusting when they have enough sunlight coming into them. It's just.
Speaker 1:I like that. It dwells into Snyder really.
Speaker 3:Well, I think they had more issues adjusting to, because of his hearing, that they were getting more sensitive, over driven. So that made more sense, cause he just Remember they came there when they were grown.
Speaker 1:Kent Clark was there when he was a baby, so he was pretty much. He grew up on earth, so he's used to this shit.
Speaker 3:I mean, even in smallville. It took when Kara got there. It took her a week to get used to.
Speaker 2:So that makes sense. Yeah, how long was Zod on the planet before? How long the technical war?
Speaker 4:How long?
Speaker 1:I mean what I was going to say. I like how, yeah, again, yes, you can talk about the Kevin Costner. Don't save me from the fucking tornado thing. That was a little. You could have saved him without nobody knowing. I get it.
Speaker 3:With as fast as he is would have had no problem.
Speaker 2:No, it was around.
Speaker 3:But that's always been.
Speaker 2:Torneo on their farm, as far as I remember.
Speaker 3:That was always my biggest complaint, because that is an instance where Superman can save him and you told him not to versus every other mythos has him with a health condition or something else that he can't save him from.
Speaker 2:And then inspires him and he would have a reason to go consult God.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that wasn't even the reason why he has no control over.
Speaker 2:And again there is another big no actually and it would have hit with the audience more because it's easy to relate to health issues.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean tornado taking it, it humanized Superman. That same thing would, in a way, be BS Snyder did. It makes you think of how would the world react to him. If he was here He'd be a hero, but if he's still an alien, he could destroy the God. He'd be a God. He'd destroy the world if he wanted to. Snyder really humanized Superman to like people. You got to think of if people would understand them or not.
Speaker 3:That's one why I like the movie so much. But the one line for the movie that I related to it's like him being treated like an alien by the military. It's like dude. I grew up in Kansas.
Speaker 2:That's kind of my thing too, as soon as they growing up in 2001, when you learned, your friend was a Muslim.
Speaker 1:Another thing too like the whole, a lot of people and I don't care that much, but everyone the whole church scene really just drove people. That's because Superman's an alien, it's like me, you realize. He was raised in Kansas, right In Kansas, by the Kansas.
Speaker 3:And he never said he actually believed in God or anything in the scene. It's just like he needed somebody to talk to and he grew up going to church on Sundays.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, it's just everyone finds.
Speaker 2:That's probably what threw me off. That is like I didn't have any, like you just had to know. Kansas is church going people yeah. It's just my family.
Speaker 1:It's my same. Everyone finds the needs. Let's attack religion. Let's attack Christians. Everyone feels need to do it. I don't know fucking why. The other reason I won't watch Exorcist believer that moving go straight to fucking hell. But is that what that movie was?
Speaker 4:No, they didn't know.
Speaker 1:No, they didn't let it's. They didn't let it was a group effort. I didn't even see the movie really. It was a group effort of all religions and shit. They made Christianity look kind of. They didn't let Christianity have the entire win. You know Christianity is evil.
Speaker 2:Oh, they decided.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's demon is every I watched a guy review it.
Speaker 2:Demon is everyone's demon. I watched a guy who reviewed it, His name Toby.
Speaker 1:Oh God. My guy reviewed it and he said, um, he's not even an overly spiritual. He is, but he's not overly overly spiritual A person who even said it's like it's one of the things where, again, Christianity cannot have a full win. So it's like that's just. That's Hollywood, though I'm kind of used to that. But man of Steel good action I like most. The CG, it looked it was a pretty movie. Most it was a pretty movie to me.
Speaker 2:And again it takes. You know, when you put love and time into a movie, you can actually watch it without noticing shit, and it's, it's to me it's also a criminal.
Speaker 1:Matt has that too. So it's not that Matt's not a part of that camp, but a lot of people. It's criminally underrated, people think it's a horrible movie and I'm like what the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 3:And it gets downgraded for me because he killed Zod.
Speaker 2:I wanted the Phantom Zone so badly.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I guess that would be another thing. You know, the more I discuss things, the more I'm able to think about it. When I go to sit, when I literally go to see a movie, I go to see it to be entertained.
Speaker 4:Me personally.
Speaker 1:I see we're now. We're kind of in the bonus talk time, but I personally think you don't have much after this, so you're fine. I personally think man of Steel two should have been Doomsday. Personally, I think that could have been Doomsday. You could add a proper do because, I'm sorry, it always feels like Lex before Doomsday. Yeah, maybe save Doomsday I mean, this is a reason for a glass.
Speaker 2:No, this is the way we got thrown him thrown in there in the suckers, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:The one we don't really have a live action for. That is as big as Bill and his Brainiac.
Speaker 2:Brainiac would take a lot.
Speaker 3:We're supposed to get that with gun. I don't know, I don't know anymore.
Speaker 4:Well 25,.
Speaker 2:Here we come. Just don't fucking flash over 2024, please.
Speaker 1:I mean there's just, it's just I thought a proper Doomsday. And again, I always weirded me out. It always bugged me. Then, bvs, it's Wonder Woman, batman and Superman fighting Doomsday. This is my honor shit coming up, but that is a one on one fight between Superman and Doomsday. You fucking made that through. No, get the fuck out of here. You're ruining that fight. They ruined that fight for me.
Speaker 2:I almost kind of turned into that at the end. We also didn't see like the evolution of Doomsday. No, you just keep coming back.
Speaker 1:Everything and keep coming back and coming back and the look was fucking Because we had three different, if I remember.
Speaker 2:In the comics it was like three or four different fights where Superman fought him and one and then he just kept coming back stronger. True.
Speaker 3:What thing will ever beat the first one? What threat would have been better for a team up for, just for the Batman v Superman? What is a character they could have brought in that would have taken over?
Speaker 1:I think you could have, I think I think I was good you could have put Lobo in there, Somebody that Lobo can go. Lobo can go toe to toe with Superman on any day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not arguing that, but I'm talking like in terms of what you've got for right, because it had to have been an earth based your logo.
Speaker 2:If he doesn't care, he'll give up and just go. Yeah, Unless you really have to really want the money You're talking about of.
Speaker 1:I don't even see Deathstroke, because Deathstroke is getting flonal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you'd stop that because he's not that strong, but it almost had to be Lex in that situation. He's a bad guy.
Speaker 1:Are you talking about the overall villain for the fight? Villain, I'm trying to think what you're talking about the fight.
Speaker 3:Villain, you had to have something where it was Lex.
Speaker 2:For the team up yeah. As far as those two coming together, it would have had to be Lex in the suit taking over Wayne Corp, somehow.
Speaker 3:Well, you can rewrite the movie however you want, but the movie would have felt better if it had been Lex and not Tuesday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Lex and his goons something yeah.
Speaker 3:Robots, whatever, yeah.
Speaker 2:Which that was not used at all either.
Speaker 3:We barely got anything out of Lex. There's not other than the Jolly Ranchers.
Speaker 2:There's not many. Oh, I'm sorry, it was Jolly Ranchers, not fucking suckers. There was one sucker scene.
Speaker 1:There's not many you could use that you can't use.
Speaker 3:Brainiac requires too much setup to me yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a Brainiac could be a Justice League villain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Brainiac is Justice League level threat. He has been before. Oh that now See, Matt's got me thinking about that. I'm thinking about a Batman villains. No, they're all fucking fodder.
Speaker 3:And there's no reason you would have had a team up between them. Yeah, For that.
Speaker 1:I mean it had to have been Lex, lex had to have been Lex. Oh God, see, that is Aries.
Speaker 3:Don't make sense, because that's, that's the one, well then, based off of the Wonder Woman movie. It doesn't make sense, because Aries been dead for 50 years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Brainiac, no. Sinestro, no. Black Adam no Um Vandal Savage, no too much setup.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Too much setup. He said his name and I was excited for a second. And then you said what you said.
Speaker 1:Batman who laughs way too much setup. But oh my God, you want to see a nerd gas about a me seeing him live.
Speaker 3:It had to have had to have been Lex or the Joker, manipulating everything, because you got to have the smarts to do it and Lex and Joker team up.
Speaker 2:Would have done it because fit night right it had been to those in switching cities. Would have done it because, again, in terms of and and believe it or not, that would have set up the injustice thing that he was going for even better. Because of fucking, because the justice thing is bad yeah.
Speaker 1:And it would have to be behind the scenes because, again, he being the Joker Joker can't fight them straight on, you're just going to get flown away like a nap. The only Joker I could do that is one of my wacky comics, emperor Joker. Emperor Joker beat. There was a comic, or he was.
Speaker 2:God, he made it into the Brave and Bold cartoon.
Speaker 1:Emperor Joker. That's getting to be that weird obscure shit. No, there's none. There's fucking the wow. That broke my mind with that because I can't, besides Lex. Yeah, I can't, there's none that work.
Speaker 3:That would have been a whole different setup. Besides, for a movie where you were the fight ending fight, wasn't Batman versus Superman the way you intended. If you're going to have somebody manipulating them, you can't have them create a new physical threat for them to fight.
Speaker 1:I mean, there was so awkward. There was a lot of under God. That's all he is now. Wow, there's a lot of like underrated villains out there like they're see. He ain't been seen a while, but was this back in 2012? There was a Justice League villain called David Graves. That was one of my favorite Justice League villains because he was an author and he made Justice League's fears come to life. I loved him. But again, that's set up and wouldn't work either.
Speaker 4:Deathstroke could have worked.
Speaker 1:Deathstroke could have Deathstroke could have.
Speaker 2:Metalo. Metalo Would have been easily thrown in there with Lex.
Speaker 3:If you got here, let me put this to you. So you pay off the fight between Batman and Superman. Jay, you have that entire fight. You have that arc. Batman mortally wounds Superman. He's out for a bit. Deathstroke comes in and fights Batman.
Speaker 1:Okay, I can see that. Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 3:And one woman that works and then one woman comes into assist somehow that somehow deathstroke still is managing that. Then a healthy Superman comes in and fights.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:I'm happy you said it like that because that works better, because it's actually more manageable, because there's a Deathstroke, has used the bane.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There's ways to I'm just saying there is a camp of people out there that believe Deathstroke can one on one Superman.
Speaker 3:And then it pays off in Justice League when he breaks fucking Lex out of prison.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, it would you just rewrote. We didn't fix it, but we certainly got seen.
Speaker 1:No, I'm trying to remember what the fuck ruined that better for me. Oh yeah, it was a certain kind of identity crisis. It was a comic that ruined.
Speaker 3:I thought it was Judas contract.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, that's for me, because that's not the way it's the thing that made Deathstroke so kind of OP to people, because he was protecting a guy and the whole Justice League came, the Justice League minus Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. The B-Listers pretty much tried to get Catch Deathstroke and he was able to fight them all pretty good till they finally subdued him. I'm like, oh, whoopies beat on black canary and green arrow and she had, oh shit.
Speaker 2:Like my God. Well, you can't say he's beating on everybody with no powers, because then Batman would have got Batman wonder he's got money.
Speaker 1:I got money, I love it.
Speaker 2:I love and hate that joke about Batman. What is Batman superpower?
Speaker 3:I'm rich.
Speaker 1:Oh, I want to one thing I was going to say at the end here, just just because you're a couple minutes dedicated to, because I thought it was cool what we would like to see, maybe from Batman to with Reeves, because there's been a lot of rumors about it.
Speaker 3:We don't even.
Speaker 1:Isn't it the villain's supposed to be?
Speaker 3:hush and.
Speaker 1:I heard hush. I've also heard Clayface. Now I want them to do Clayface right.
Speaker 2:Hush would be nice because I can see hush manipulating Clayface as an actor.
Speaker 3:Clayface is just so weird that they haven't done it so weird for you?
Speaker 1:Well, it's because you're talking about big monster.
Speaker 3:Well, it's because it's they haven't done that kind of character in a Batman movie.
Speaker 1:No, they haven't. That's why he's right, because you haven't seen him.
Speaker 3:Well, it's not that you haven't. I'm not. My point is that they haven't seen him. It's because of the animation required for a Clayface. Yeah, he doesn't feel like it's a Gotham thing. That's why Clayface isn't used as often as a lot of these guys, I won't disagree.
Speaker 1:I won't disagree with the logic.
Speaker 3:I do kind of you don't have a Solomon Grundy either, but he's still more believable than Clayface.
Speaker 2:Bored. Okay, no, as long as we don't get Gotham Grundy or Gotham Clayface.
Speaker 1:You can have Clayface be like a he was an actor, shape shift or murderer, Basil Carlo and his original origin. You could maybe do something with shape shifting, but again, that's getting a little weird, that's getting weird for a back for all of the content, but the only problem is we can't have a chameleon in a Spider-Man movie. Spider-man. They for some reason they keep Batman very realistic, even though he has up there out there. Look at Bane the Tom Hough.
Speaker 2:The Morpho for Fox 8 is one of the.
Speaker 3:Chameleon for a chameleon for Tom Holland's fight versus can be weird. Because a lot of his stuff is techy because he's supposed to be.
Speaker 2:he's supposed to be going back to the streets and having him become Did this just aside know here having him become the bad guy again, because somebody impersonating him would be kind of awesome to me. Not to mention it's one of his first goddamn villains.
Speaker 1:I mean I want to look up just for.
Speaker 2:So taking everything that was Tony Stark out and putting in a chameleon, him having to redeem himself, I agree works for me. Not so much after the last movie, considering he was a fucking.
Speaker 1:Another one that's been criminal technically. Another one that's been.
Speaker 3:How do I? Do that I wanted cord of owls for Batman to. That would work. That would work. Based off of the first movie, core of Owls works.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Court of Owls works for the things that they set up in the first movie with the families, and then you give him hush for what I don't want them to do, though, is when they do the core of owls.
Speaker 2:I want them to keep the mass on. I know none of them. That's right here.
Speaker 1:Here I pulled up a list seven possible villains for. Batman to I want to just quick the end of our past, our opinion on all of these. Let me go to seven, because somebody's are seven. Is is penguin.
Speaker 3:I'm like, I don't like that one.
Speaker 1:Can't see it after.
Speaker 3:That's why he's number seven.
Speaker 1:Yep, I don't see that one Six riddler riddler will pop up, probably again.
Speaker 3:We'll probably get him in prison.
Speaker 1:I don't want. I like side by side. I liked that riddler, I did, but I cannot go over the fact that they just made him the Zodiac killer, like bro.
Speaker 3:Next.
Speaker 1:Um five. The Joker, he can be in there. He can be an Arkham.
Speaker 2:I just want him. I want Barry and the cell playing cards.
Speaker 1:I want to see more Barry.
Speaker 3:I just I don't you can get him.
Speaker 1:I just don't want him to be the villain I don't want to disagree because, as much as I love me bias, I'll take Joker as a main villain any day, but I understand that there's fatigue. There's other villains I'd like to see, but he'll. I'd like him in there. Like, have a scene where Batman goes to visit him, that scene that they released to him going to visit Joker. I don't know if you've seen it. That could have been in the movie.
Speaker 1:They should have just left down the fucking movie, but they probably won't know. They don't want Joker again.
Speaker 3:Next.
Speaker 1:Mr Freeze, miss, don't shake your.
Speaker 3:Mr Freeze. No, I want another Mr Freeze. It's not that it's his. I don't think he fits for what I want out of the movie.
Speaker 1:You know I people want Freeze so much because he's the villain that tests Batman, because not Batman's morality. Freeze is just doing everything to save his wife. That's all he's doing. And it tests because, even though Freeze is kind of a dumb fucking his own right, because Batman is offered many times to help him and he says no.
Speaker 3:I just don't think he fits what they set up off of one. But I do want a live action for this freeze, I do want one.
Speaker 1:Freeze Bane. Better be on there.
Speaker 3:Nope Three, three is.
Speaker 1:Three is, three is.
Speaker 3:I want to get to what my movie idea is. Number two is Clayface. I just don't know how they're going to do it. Number one is the quarter vowels, but getting to my movie. Getting to my movie idea where you set up all the family shit in the first one with all the legacies, that straight quarter vowels, easy TN fucking with Batman. But then you also get them hiring fucking hush. Who will have who? We want more, who will impersonate Batman?
Speaker 2:Helping hush not hiring.
Speaker 3:Helping whatever, but our gripe with Robert Patton's Batman is he's not Bruce yet how do you disturb? You make him start playing Bruce. I was going to say Get it with hush and you get it with the quarter vowels.
Speaker 1:You do know that hush is heavily connected to the wanes. Yeah, he's. That's Bruce's time yelling. It's Bruce's childhood friend. So I agree with your point. That could make Bruce more.
Speaker 3:Bruce. You want him to take more of Bruce role. And how do you attack Bruce? Quarter vowels hush.
Speaker 1:Tommy was. Tommy was pissed off because Bruce Thomas Wayne saved his parents. Tommy wanted their money. He kept trying to kill him because he wanted their money and that's the other one reason he's pissed off at Thomas Wayne. For a long time he kept trying to kill his parents. Thomas Wayne kept saving him because he was a surgeon, all that shit. But no, I think hush would be really good Again, down down to earth, down, and I love hushes. Look the bandages is great.
Speaker 3:He just pulls out the twin pistols Great shit, um, and if it's the current theme of still having a street level of street level threats, cat woman will be back, even though she brought off in the sunset.
Speaker 1:She'll probably be back.
Speaker 2:Oh god, so we crap. It's putting hush in her in the same movie.
Speaker 4:Oh hard of hush time.
Speaker 1:Jay's gonna be in pain me. Oh yeah, one of my favorite stories, oh yeah so I finished.
Speaker 3:Batman will be a place.
Speaker 1:Oh, I've realized Matt's one of the few for that. Most people like the muscle car Just bat mats in the minority. For that one, I'm surprised.
Speaker 2:Let me guess you didn't like the end of Gotham, did you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't finish Gotham, oh, the first. I was turned off by season four, the first bad I was.
Speaker 1:The first Batmobile was a mustang.
Speaker 3:My, my point was I didn't care.
Speaker 2:I didn't care of that for a couple of months I didn't care that it was a muscle car.
Speaker 3:That's not my problem with it. It was your two. Batman, his Batmobile isn't finished.
Speaker 2:None of his shit was finished.
Speaker 3:Yes, You're one back still using adrenaline shots?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I.
Speaker 1:Just um, and I wonder if you agree that there is kind of made me think it was venom, and it wasn't. But no, I, I would like cord of owls. I would like cord of owls simply because he was great of the lore it would give Gotham. That's a lot of things. He's Nolan's movies and Joel Schumacher's. I don't care about those. Really, I'm sorry. Batnipples and the Bat card, who?
Speaker 3:um, and I'm still one of my favorite bruises, who Clooney?
Speaker 1:Oh no, no disagreement there. Clooney is literally Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 2:That's the thing we have with, like Spider-Man and Batman you can either play one or the other. You never get a good mix of the two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, but um, they never really touched on the lore of Gotham. A lot of them and Cord of owls does that and it gives me talent and I get to see talent in fight, bruce.
Speaker 2:I got a question for you. You want talent to be related to yes nightwing yes.
Speaker 3:I mean you literally Gotham cord of owls would take Adventure that so easily, and I'm sorry post flood so easily. I'm sorry and here mad is a problem and a part of their plan, mad is gonna cringe.
Speaker 1:Mad is probably gonna again. That's gonna cringe again, but I could. If quarter vowels is the villain I could see. If I could see a Batman going to Joker scene and yada, yada, blah, blah, blah. I could see a post credit scene or after, like the fighter stuff. Joker gets out, then he could be, then he could be the villain for three. Then I could see him being to me. I want just that five minutes. You watch the scene recently.
Speaker 2:How do you feel it finish a trilogy like that, though? What do you mean?
Speaker 3:Oh, you finish the trilogy on Joker. That sounds legit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I Want their history come. Sorry, when Batman went into that's when into that scene and Joker was like oh, it's our anniversary. I want their fucking story. I want their story and that's that Joker is. I don't know if you've seen the scene. Never told me.
Speaker 3:If you've seen the scene of very he's so messed up and deformed, like he actually fell in acid and it's like Thank you, he's to be fair for the arc that you got for the Nolan yeah, where your first villain is Roz and then it ended the ending villain being Talia. It's great in terms of a story. Yes.
Speaker 1:I read does it?
Speaker 3:get. It doesn't get poor because of executed yes, but the thought of it is great.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I thought um.
Speaker 2:Because if they ever did a four, I would have been like oh hey, I read that.
Speaker 1:I read that um Ledger was supposed to be back as Joker for three. Yes, there was. There was that talk. I wish we never Just it just leaves that so Open-ended. It just that will never fucking get. And I know Dark Knight ride like you see, dark Knight rise is a weird movie as it probably Movie wise the weakest in Nolan's Batman's. It's still not a bad movie. That's the weirdest thing about Nolan's trilogy. There's not a bet. Then again there's bias. You know me, bane's my second favorite Batman villain and Tom Hardy as much as.
Speaker 2:Jay has issues.
Speaker 1:He was only missing one thing for me what is venom? Yeah, I'm so and I'm so and that man dropped them.
Speaker 3:That and being technically Manipulated, yeah.
Speaker 2:I didn't like that. I don't like that fucking making me remember. I'm sorry when he said uh, but he's just Talia being brought up, if she was in the movie itself, and yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry when, fucking when Bane said uh, you think darkness is your ala. I'm sorry, I was like uh.
Speaker 3:Gold, one of the people in critical role. That has a really good vein and it's really good.
Speaker 1:You think darkness is your ally and you can just do it with a cup.
Speaker 3:Just the straight echo when it sounds like Bane is really good my another thing about Dark Knight.
Speaker 1:That's funny, me and Matt being the football fans. Oh, he just goes and blows up the Steelers from fucking Steelers and you and big Ben's air and Heinz war, was that their stadium?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it was meant to be Heinz Field. It got them nights instead of. I think they was the easiest thing to do because it was already blackening.
Speaker 4:I wonder if they filmed it there.
Speaker 1:I wonder if that was Heinz Field.
Speaker 3:It might have been could have been Wanted to take in much, but that was post their Super Bowl, so yeah, here We'll just go destroy what team we're gonna destroy?
Speaker 1:the Steelers? Okay, I don't know. I love how we just got on a rant.
Speaker 2:Let us DC you hit, you had some like post yeah, no that was post podcast talk.
Speaker 3:I can't talk about it on the podcast. Oh, one, it's not topical, it's not topical, and the other one I don't want to put, and any you don't want to put on the internet. Yeah, okay, oh no, don't wonder a full-on opinions to be put on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even me, even I, since it's public I even I pulled back a lot of my hard opinions on shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, funny thing and then we start getting some reason. I'm too honest, honest to a fault.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you're also not thinking as political as me and him do when we're think holding back shit.
Speaker 1:Yep cuz you say one bad thing nowadays, but I Said things early.
Speaker 2:I'm probably the most cancelled person in our podcast and you know I could be if I let go. Yeah, if there's a reason nobody listens to our podcast, it's probably me, yeah but yours is subtle enough where we're not commenting on it.
Speaker 1:But uh yeah, well, I guess that'll do it for the Aquaman Lost Kingdom we got two for 240, and your computer didn't shut down.
Speaker 2:That's look at that I guess yeah.
Speaker 4:I mean only.
Speaker 2:Not like JJ, I don't know, so we have a we have a Disney episode at some point.
Speaker 3:Um, that might be a busy day if it goes the way I wanted to.
Speaker 1:We have a Disney episode, some at some point we have um a Harry Potter episode. That will happen probably within the next couple. You're saying we can't just keep teasing it with Harry. Oh, that's gotta happen at some point, and the next movie Review would probably be madam.
Speaker 3:I think that's gonna be. I think we're gonna have issues with that. I think that's gonna go kind of how our march went oh, because our girl comes up around then too. Oh boy, I'm gonna want to talk about that one.
Speaker 2:All right, did we? If we're having a double March, aren't we where it's like three or four movies in that one month?
Speaker 3:Well, that was four. Well, no, but we didn't talk about Mario. We had forced. We are the movies in.
Speaker 2:March last time about Mario.
Speaker 3:Well, we sort of talk, we read over it but the movies in March of last year were D&D John Wick. Shazam was one should the Sam, because that episode disappeared. Yeah, but that was also in March, and then you had Mario after that. It was like it was a busy March. I Was down every year, three episodes that March and that was before we know is skipping over Mario.
Speaker 1:Two of my two of my big crushes are in there. Bryce does hard at Henry Cavill. I'll never let that dope die now.
Speaker 3:No, the no word, the wing we're not letting down is that you recognized Cavill before you recognized Bryce.
Speaker 2:That's the stereotype I'm going with you had her from behind and you recognize Cavill first and John Cena's in it again that motherfucker everywhere.
Speaker 1:I'm back. You know you can't and no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:You can't say that and skip over the guy that's literally in every movie Samuel Jackson. Have you ever seen a movie ever?
Speaker 2:He's the black guy, he's the black guy, but he's not the black guy who dies, hey random, random Samuel L Jackson story and this killed me.
Speaker 1:There was an interview with him. It fucking had me dying when he was doing Django. He probably know I'm probably he was doing when Samuel L Jackson to Django. He was talking. He's like he was talking to Leo and Leonardo Capra. I don't know.
Speaker 4:I can't, I can't say it.
Speaker 1:He had to say the n-word and Samuel Jackson like Sam. Oh fuck, just know that the office for us Stating the motherfucker just kills it say no, jamie Foxx told the story. He said here Samuel Jackson, say it, say it, motherfucker, god damn it.
Speaker 2:Anyone get an update on him? Oh, jamie Foxx.
Speaker 3:He's fine. Yeah, he's fine.
Speaker 1:Okay, they can't remember he's, he's tied. He's tied to me now because he was in spider-man. He was a lecturer, so god damn it. Them actors are all special to me.
Speaker 3:I know not Jamie Foxx, I still hope his spawn thing that's taken off.
Speaker 2:You know what, taking off as a takes off takes it Okay, you, you lost us there for a second.
Speaker 3:If I meant it that way, I was.
Speaker 1:I'm curious. Sponses Mike we want spawn yeah it's my favorite character outside of Marvel and DC and it just sucks. I got to keep rewatching that. That that okay, good movie, but CGI I cesspool. That's the 90s one, when Michael Jowai.
Speaker 2:God, if they could just take that entire movie and just remake it now, they'd be fine.
Speaker 3:I mean basically just cast people and take the same script, not using whoever Warner Brothers uses for CGI, sure?
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, but do you remember when he's in? Yeah, Remember when he's in hell and all the demons are around in a fire. It's like what the fuck? Who filmed this shit? What kind of component. We were kids. We didn't fucking. Yeah, we thought that was cool. Now we were watching. All that's bad.
Speaker 2:Oh, he was had horns. They had a fucking long ass. Tongue is like yeah, that's a demon. Yeah, we know what they do with that. Oh Yo yo I just, by the way, dean, you're definitely going to hell because of that.
Speaker 1:I probably am I, most likely am I just.
Speaker 2:I'm going to hell? No, because the demons are gonna lick his butthole. Oh.
Speaker 3:That, just that's just dictating what level of hell.
Speaker 2:No, that's just the first part. It's like whoa, then at one point he's gonna have a pineapple. Oh, no, just because a little nicky, no, it's a permanent scene in his head.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess we will end it there. Ladies and gentlemen, rest in peace to say some weird fucking shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why you?
Speaker 3:always say some weird shit.
Speaker 1:The end. Rest in peace to the DCEU. You will be missed will you will hear. That's what I was trying to set mad up to, will you so long that we will bury you a moment of silence, okay?
Speaker 2:everyone having good night signing off. Wow goodbye everyone, bye, bye.
